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General => Brammo News And Views => Topic started by: FreepZ on April 29, 2012, 11:26:10 PM

Title: Brammo Spied?
Post by: FreepZ on April 29, 2012, 11:26:10 PM
Brenda Priddy just tweeted this:
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Spy Teaser: We caught an all-new PRODUCTION never-before-seen electric #motorcycle. Link as soon as we have one ...
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/BrendaPriddy/status/196799966151319555

I'm not sure where the image will show up, or if it's even the Empulse, but it might be. Especially if Brammo was making a video with the Empulse this weekend.

Update: Apparently it is the Empulse.

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SPIED: Production #Brammo Empulse R Electric Motorcycle Spied! First photos ever of the production model!
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/BrendaPriddy/status/196813335864418305

I wonder when those pictures will turn up, and how Brammo is going to handle that for the next week or so.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: EmpulseRider on April 30, 2012, 07:52:30 AM
Same lady who spied the Fisker Atlantic recently... will be made available to the highest bidder im sure. Still not sure Im buying this supposedly covert operation of hers:

http://www.brendapriddyandcompany.com/ (http://www.brendapriddyandcompany.com/)

And this:

Pics or it dint happen :) “@BrendaPriddy: SPIED: Production #Brammo Empulse R Electric Motorcycle! 1st photos ever of the production model!”

@EcoChambers Nick, just waiting for a buyer so I can post the link ...

Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on April 30, 2012, 08:04:04 AM
On her photo page, she has a photo of an SUV with a camera rig very similar to the one shown on the Brammo page.
From her page: 
(http://www.brendapriddyandcompany.com/assets/Uploads/_resampled/ResizedImage300189-audiR8conv_MG_priddy2.jpg)

From Brammo's Facebook page:
[smg id=326]

Maybe it's just a common way of blocking out a vehicle's reflection when filming, but it also seems kinda fishy to me.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: EmpulseRider on April 30, 2012, 08:06:44 AM
Good catch BrammoFan!

Looks like the spy got spied.

Stand by for "spy" pics...

URL broken now... the plot thickens.  :-\
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: protomech on April 30, 2012, 08:29:33 AM
Ms. Priddy does some good work, but I sometimes get the feeling she operates on inside information ; )

Early pictures are good pictures!
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: EmpulseRider on April 30, 2012, 09:03:25 AM
Likely a major motorcycle related publication will pick up the photos for a healthy sum... imagine the publicity... HFL, A&R... would be very cool if they got their hands on these first.

BTW, anyone know the legal etiquette for linking these pics, when they become available, to my blog?

... props to Freepz for hooking us up with the 411! Exciting stuff right here.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Richard230 on April 30, 2012, 09:51:27 AM
BMW is famous for trying to keep their new motorcycle models under wraps until they are ready to release the information. Their weak link is the Italians.  BMW sends photos to the Italians so that they can print up the new model brochures and someone in the Italian print shop immediately posts the photos on the internet, beating BMW's official introduction by a couple of months.

You would think that by now the Germans would have figured out that the Italians just don't take them seriously.   ;D

As near as I can tell, Zero avoided that problem by just not producing a paper brochure of their 2012 model line.  When I visited my dealer and asked for a brochure, I was given a flash drive copy of the 110-page owner's manual instead. I guess that cuts down on printing costs, but it really wasn't as much fun as seeing a glossy brochure. Plus, I collect motorcycle brochures and I really wanted a paper one to add to my collection.   ;)
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on April 30, 2012, 10:06:17 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/F_P8HNLPqTO2B3JY6jo6RYJGBVkyZBYZAB47gCvPLAhQGXxGFK9R0XawmPDDuDPQmRRXSQAQBUo) (https://twitter.com/#!/BrendaPriddy/status/196859847835271169)
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on April 30, 2012, 10:18:46 AM
On her photo page, she has a photo of an SUV with a camera rig very similar to the one shown on the Brammo page.
From her page: 
(http://www.brendapriddyandcompany.com/assets/Uploads/_resampled/ResizedImage300189-audiR8conv_MG_priddy2.jpg)

From Brammo's Facebook page:
[smg id=326]

Maybe it's just a common way of blocking out a vehicle's reflection when filming, but it also seems kinda fishy to me.


that top small photo is from filming Iron Man 2...Robert Downey Jr driving the Audi with the world fair model in the car.

g
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: FreepZ on April 30, 2012, 02:34:40 PM
... props to Freepz for hooking us up with the 411! Exciting stuff right here.

Ironically, I found that tweet on Brammo's twitter page (http://www.brammo.com/twitter/). I assume that the page will simply look for Brammo related terms and post them on that page, so when Ms. Priddy tweeted with "Brammo" in the message, it showed up on there!

I suspect that getting spied isn't the worst thing that can happen. Brammo was already giving us glimpses of the bike, and these pictures may be a few more glimpses. Of course with a big enough zoom lens, the pictures could be quite a lot more than a glimpse. But it's only about one week until the reveal, so those pictures might just serve to fuel the buzz, rather than spoil anything.

Either way, I doubt that seeing pictures sooner than the 8th will have any negative effect on my desire to own an Empulse. :D
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on April 30, 2012, 02:40:04 PM
As empulsebuyer noted, we won't see these photos unless a publication buys them - she doesn't publish them herself.  I seriously doubt that HFL or A&R would pay money for photos of the bike - They either do their own photography or co-opt them (with a message, usually, indicating the source).  It's certainly possible that we won't see them at all.

Or maybe they're already out there in a publication we're not familiar with.

And yes, I don't think these spy shots will, ultimately do any damage.  More than likely, it will just get more folks excited about it.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on April 30, 2012, 02:52:28 PM
BTW, anyone know the legal etiquette for linking these pics, when they become available, to my blog?
Well, here's what I used to do:
Download the photo. Save it to my wordpress media library.  Insert it into my blog post with a caption that said something like, Image courtesy of motorcycle.com.  Sometimes, I'd even link to the original post.

Here's what I do now, for the most part (on the rare occasion when I blog - this forum seems to be my go-to media for sharing):
Download the photo.  Save it to my wordpress media library (or my "sharing" folder in Google drive).  Insert the photo in a post. 

If I forget to give credit to the source, c'est la vie.  If they send me a cease and desist letter, I'll ... I don't know because I've NEVER received one.

Once, I got an email from a Brammo babe who wanted her name withdrawn from my Brammo Babe of the year contest.  I withdrew her name.  I think I might have even photoshopped something stupid over her face in a group picture, but I'm immature that way. 

Mainly - don't worry about it too much and remember: it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: EmpulseRider on April 30, 2012, 03:04:40 PM
BTW, anyone know the legal etiquette for linking these pics, when they become available, to my blog?
Well, here's what I used to do:
Download the photo. Save it to my wordpress media library.  Insert it into my blog post with a caption that said something like, Image courtesy of motorcycle.com.  Sometimes, I'd even link to the original post.

Here's what I do now, for the most part (on the rare occasion when I blog - this forum seems to be my go-to media for sharing):
Download the photo.  Save it to my wordpress media library (or my "sharing" folder in Google drive).  Insert the photo in a post. 

If I forget to give credit to the source, c'est la vie.  If they send me a cease and desist letter, I'll ... I don't know because I've NEVER received one.

Once, I got an email from a Brammo babe who wanted her name withdrawn from my Brammo Babe of the year contest.  I withdrew her name.  I think I might have even photoshopped something stupid over her face in a group picture, but I'm immature that way. 

Mainly - don't worry about it too much and remember: it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.

Sounds reasonable, thanks!

"it's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission."

Now those are words to live by!
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 01, 2012, 11:23:47 AM
Dont look at the next post if you want to be surprised next week





gavin



Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 01, 2012, 11:24:24 AM
i am linking to image vs posting image...that way people can "choose" to look or not...


blog post: (does not click through...select the whole link and copy paste)

http://www.automedia.com/Blog/post/Breaking-News-Production-Brammo-Empulse-R-Electric-Motorcycle-Spied (http://www.automedia.com/Blog/post/Breaking-News-Production-Brammo-Empulse-R-Electric-Motorcycle-Spied)!.aspx


Images:



http://www.automedia.com/Blog/ImageGallery/61fdc241-ce08-4e93-b574-24ddff1afc91/Large/00%20Brammo_es_may2012_PRIDDY2.jpeg (http://www.automedia.com/Blog/ImageGallery/61fdc241-ce08-4e93-b574-24ddff1afc91/Large/00%20Brammo_es_may2012_PRIDDY2.jpeg)

and


http://www.automedia.com/Blog/ImageGallery/61fdc241-ce08-4e93-b574-24ddff1afc91/Large/01%20Brammo_es_may2012_PRIDDY5.jpeg (http://www.automedia.com/Blog/ImageGallery/61fdc241-ce08-4e93-b574-24ddff1afc91/Large/01%20Brammo_es_may2012_PRIDDY5.jpeg)



I wish there was a way to add a spoiler tag to cover this....

Gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Lastb0isct on May 01, 2012, 11:32:03 AM
[image removed]
I wish there was a way to add a spoiler tag to cover this....

Gavin

I like it...I like it a lot.

I can't wait to see it in person next week though and have all the details on it.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 01, 2012, 11:37:34 AM
And if BrammoFan wants this pulled...I am happy to kill this post....

that said, a GOOD looking bike...

Gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 01, 2012, 11:47:13 AM
Big brakes, nice monoshock...

Surprised they kept the headlight after Zero cribbed it...

Gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: 860 on May 01, 2012, 11:50:04 AM
I quickly did "save image"...

Initial impression is that this has a much more refined tail, tank, battery pack, and lower cowl than the prototype.  The battery packs on the prototype were very obvious, and stood out like a sore thumb.  These battery packs look more integrated to my eye.

I like the taller bars, I'm sure others will be hoping that the May 8th reveal will include news on a lower bar option, more like the prototype.  

I also compared it to a photo of my current ride (SV650), and the geometry seems fairly similar, which was something I'm hoping for.  I really like seating position on my SV650.  Does anyone know who the rider is, and how tall they are?

This looks to me like it has the "Empulse R" on the side of it.  I still can't imagine what the non-R will be.  Looks like no full-fairing for the "R".  Maybe the non "R" spec bike will be lower end suspension and brakes?  

I see rear pegs for a passenger, but that doesn't look like a very comfortable seat...  

I'm pretty happy.  Can't wait until the 8th!


EDIT:  Changed impulse to Empulse.  Damn spelling auto-correct.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 01, 2012, 11:52:02 AM
no fairing....is this the R or the standard Empulse?

Gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: 860 on May 01, 2012, 11:57:47 AM
no fairing....is this the R or the standard Empulse?

Gavin

Looks like there is a big red "R" on the side, after the white "Empulse" lettering.  I'm concluding this makes it the Empulse R.  


EDIT:  Changed impulse to Empulse.  Damn auto-spell correct.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on May 01, 2012, 12:02:40 PM
Eh, I'm not going to pull it.  They are all over the internets now.  HellforLeather published a corner of the pic and linked to the Automedia site. 

So, someone do a quickie photoshop side by side and let's get talking.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 01, 2012, 12:19:43 PM
(http://brammo.com/store/images/D/store_empulse2.jpg)

vs

http://www.automedia.com/Blog/ImageGallery/61fdc241-ce08-4e93-b574-24ddff1afc91/Large/01%20Brammo_es_may2012_PRIDDY5.jpeg (http://www.automedia.com/Blog/ImageGallery/61fdc241-ce08-4e93-b574-24ddff1afc91/Large/01%20Brammo_es_may2012_PRIDDY5.jpeg)

The seat and tail end are much nicer...slimmer, compact...

G
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on May 01, 2012, 12:21:23 PM
From a friend, (not a forum member):
So far:
- shock location/orientation
- "tank" shape"
- battery packs silver instead of yellow
- no more Daytona front end
- flat bars
- tail/plate hanger/light
- pilion pegs
- belly pan
- radiator location
- real hugger
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 01, 2012, 12:24:09 PM
i like the rear fender better...foot pegs for the passenger....tank is nicer...

They did move the radiator down low...it is the one visual change I am not in love with...makes the bottom more bulky.

But with that riding position...I could rock this bike...still getting the Plus, but this is a sports bike I could own...and I don't like sports bikes.

Gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on May 01, 2012, 12:28:50 PM
I've been asked by the photographer to pull down the photos.   :(
So, Lastb0isct and anyone else who re-published that photo, could you please modify your posts?
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 01, 2012, 12:29:17 PM
this is the "danger" of doing a video shoot...especially in a city like LA.

that said, the saying goes: "There is no such thing as bad publicity"


Gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 01, 2012, 12:31:59 PM
I've been asked by the photographer to pull down the photos.   :(
So, Lastb0isct and anyone else who re-published that photo, could you please modify your posts?

I took down the photo...kept the links...figure he/she wants the click throughs...

Gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: EmpulseRider on May 01, 2012, 12:33:14 PM
Hmm, some changes I like, some I dont. Do I still want it? Hell yes... (pending price and subsequent wife approval) and I want to see more pictures! I can wait till May 8th now... (not that I could before) dont really see this as much of a spoiler, and I dont think the low quality pic will do it justice.

It baffles me that they dont have a faired version like the RR... I also thought the R was going to have more aggressive ergos.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: EmpulseRider on May 01, 2012, 12:41:20 PM
Big brakes, nice monoshock...

Surprised they kept the headlight after Zero cribbed it...

Gavin

When I went to look at the 2012 Zero S here at Grand Prix Motorsports I showed the guy a picture of the Empulse on my phone... he was like "Looks like they used the same headlight as Zero." to which I replied "Actually it was the other way around", to which he replied "Well you can buy one of these." Touché...
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: FreepZ on May 01, 2012, 12:42:41 PM
The production model seems to have lost the "3 parallel lines" look that the prototype had. I.e. the belly, battery frame and suspension spring were all parallel before. Now the belly is a lot more rounded, and the suspension is at a very different angle from the battery frame.

I think that I liked the more angular prototype shape a bit better, although perhaps I'm saying that because I've grown accustomed to it. I can definitely see the advantage of a more rounded upper "tank": it's going to make it a lot more comfortable to lay over the tank to get under the wind.

I like the fact that it has full mirrors. The handlebar mirrors (http://brammoforum.com/index.php?topic=211.msg4676#msg4676) that some people have put on their Enertias look pretty cool, but I prefer a mirror that requires only my eyes to move, rather than my whole head.

It's a sweet looking bike, and I'm very happy that it's finally seeing the light of day. I'd still like to see a small windshield on mine, so I can duck behind it and get better aerodynamics.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: FreepZ on May 01, 2012, 12:47:00 PM
I've been asked by the photographer to pull down the photos.   :(
So, Lastb0isct and anyone else who re-published that photo, could you please modify your posts?

The spies have to make a living, so let's all be nice and link to the host website (rather than directly to the image), and then when we visit it, click on all the sponsor links to send a little cash to the host website. :)

In a week, we'll all get some very awesome high definition images to drool over. :P
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: FreepZ on May 01, 2012, 12:52:52 PM
i am linking to image vs posting image...that way people can "choose" to look or not...

blog post: (does not click through...select the whole link and copy paste)

http://www.automedia.com/Blog/post/Breaking-News-Production-Brammo-Empulse-R-Electric-Motorcycle-Spied!.aspx (http://www.automedia.com/Blog/post/Breaking-News-Production-Brammo-Empulse-R-Electric-Motorcycle-Spied!.aspx)


I fixed the link in the quote so that you can click through.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: EmpulseRider on May 01, 2012, 12:55:48 PM
I like the design overall... liked the belly of the prototype much better. The battery boxes and tank look more refined on the production version. My main worry after seeing an un-faired R is that they price both of em into oblivion... in which case I will be screwed. I mean how much different could the regular model be? Lower grade brakes, forks, rear shock, etc arent going to make that much of a difference in price, are they? I feel for you folks that wont get Colorado style tax breaks...

I really hope Brammo can hit that 14k price point.

BTW, my gixxer may have already sold... so I am going to be without a bike until Brammo can hook me up.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: protomech on May 01, 2012, 02:17:01 PM
The production model seems to have lost the "3 parallel lines" look that the prototype had. I.e. the belly, battery frame and suspension spring were all parallel before. Now the belly is a lot more rounded, and the suspension is at a very different angle from the battery frame.

I think that I liked the more angular prototype shape a bit better, although perhaps I'm saying that because I've grown accustomed to it. I can definitely see the advantage of a more rounded upper "tank": it's going to make it a lot more comfortable to lay over the tank to get under the wind.

Yeah. I think the belly area is really the most unattractive part of the bike.. and that may be just to fit the more powerful onboard charger : / I would probably remove the pillion pegs as well, if they're easily reattached.

Rest of it looks good. I miss the 3 parallel line design .. looking forward to seeing this next week without the rider on it.

Quote
I like the fact that it has full mirrors. The handlebar mirrors (http://brammoforum.com/index.php?topic=211.msg4676#msg4676) that some people have put on their Enertias look pretty cool, but I prefer a mirror that requires only my eyes to move, rather than my whole head.

Yeah, bar-end mirrors look sexy but I like having mirrors at or very close to my vision arc. I finally (after six weeks!) got the Zero mirrors set up in a way that works well for me.

Quote
It's a sweet looking bike, and I'm very happy that it's finally seeing the light of day. I'd still like to see a small windshield on mine, so I can duck behind it and get better aerodynamics.

I believe that we have the answer to "does the transmission make it more efficient". The Empulse R does not have a full fairing, and has about 11% more range per kWh at 70 mph than the Zero S. The shape might be a touch more aerodynamic, but I think at highway speeds the transmission at least makes up for the extra drag, and quite likely does improve highway energy consumption a bit.

Chevy took a similar approach with the Volt. Before highway speeds, the Volt is a pure serial EV, with the engine operating a generator which energizes the motor. At and above legal freeway speeds, the Volt connects the engine to the wheels by a mechanical transmission to improve fuel consumption.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on May 01, 2012, 02:24:29 PM
I'm just going to throw this out there and note, for the record, that I have not heard a thing about this from Brammo:
Is it possible that what were looking at is the Empulse R with a little extra added camouflage? The belly pan and the missing tank-sides... just seems questionable to me. 

Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 01, 2012, 02:33:41 PM
I don't think so...would you have camo in your own video shoot?

And the teaser image shows the lack of tank sides.

As for the fat belly pan...yeah, my least favorite change...but likely there for a reason (bigger battery, bigger motor, reposition of the radiator)...I am sure Brammo didn't want a fat low belly...but likely it couldn't be helped.

I kinda hope the Empulse gives birth to the anti-scooter...then there is a sleaker Empulse and a tiny ride for my sis in law. :)

Gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: 860 on May 01, 2012, 04:59:03 PM
I also compared it to a photo of my current ride (SV650), and the geometry seems fairly similar, which was something I'm hoping for.  I really like seating position on my SV650.  Does anyone know who the rider is, and how tall they are?


Someone posting on the automedia.com site is saying "That would be Steveo there ttxgp racer" in the pictures.  Can anyone tell me how tall Steveo is? 
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: protomech on May 01, 2012, 06:19:41 PM
Why don't you ask him? : )
http://brammoforum.com/index.php?topic=917.msg5839 (http://brammoforum.com/index.php?topic=917.msg5839)
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Vibetrippin on May 01, 2012, 06:20:58 PM
I really don't mind the way that belly looks. After having wiped the drool off my keyboard, I think it could easily be there to direct air over the rad as well as keeping road wash off the expensive parts inside.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: 860 on May 01, 2012, 07:17:42 PM
Why don't you ask him? : )
http://brammoforum.com/index.php?topic=917.msg5839 (http://brammoforum.com/index.php?topic=917.msg5839)


Last Active:    December 22, 2011, 07:29:30 AM      :(
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on May 01, 2012, 08:29:56 PM
I also compared it to a photo of my current ride (SV650), and the geometry seems fairly similar, which was something I'm hoping for.  I really like seating position on my SV650.  Does anyone know who the rider is, and how tall they are?


Someone posting on the automedia.com site is saying "That would be Steveo there ttxgp racer" in the pictures.  Can anyone tell me how tall Steveo is? 

SteveO is a giant.

In some sense of the word, anyway.

I really doubt this is him.  He's kind of jockey-sized.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: flar on May 01, 2012, 09:09:44 PM
I think the belly pan looks fine, but it looks like it would preclude a center stand (standard or optional).

I like the look, but the first thing that struck me about it was that there is a giant body in the middle in front of the rider and then the rear suspension and tail kind of look like they're very minimalist and a lot of separation between them emphasizes the difference from the body. A wasp-like structure (though the prototype had a much more yellow-jacket coloring).

I'm still signed up and wondering how quickly the queue will run through...
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Deadly Silent Ninja on May 01, 2012, 10:00:33 PM
Has anyone else noticed that Brammo has only really referred to the Empulse R? They only published the specs for the Empulse R. Now, we are looking at an Empulse R without fairing and they are going to give away an Empulse R...

Is there any chance that the Empulse (without the "R") will be something very different or even, not there at all? Or are they just selling their powerhouse version, so they don't have to explain why the Empulse will not have many of the state-of-the-art parts?

Can't wait for the 8th... someone please tell me they will have something I can afford!!!  ???
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: EmpulseRider on May 01, 2012, 10:17:56 PM
I imagine the reason that they MAY be pushing the R currently is because it could be the only model available initially. Similar to what Tesla is doing with the Model S Signature Series. That is, if you want to get one this year, you have to pony up for the fully loaded model. I doubt Brammo is going that route, but I would not be all that surprised either. Their marketing strategy seems to have changed quite a bit over the last year. We again are left to speculate... until the 8th at least.


On second thought, the fact that they are giving away an R suggests that it will be the only model available initially... would think that they would give away the regular one, but maybe Craig is just feeling extra generous... who knows.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: flar on May 02, 2012, 01:28:26 AM
Perhaps they follow the BMW naming conventions where "R" means a naked Roadster style bike (see R1100R for example).

If so, then the Empulse could be the faired version?
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: machone on May 02, 2012, 05:26:14 AM
I love it!

Love it!

Luuuuuuuuuv it!  ;D

Mine's a black one!!
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: protomech on May 02, 2012, 07:43:51 AM
As nice as the spy shots are, the glamour shots next monday should be much better : )

flar: interesting idea .. that would position the R at the bottom of the spec list, since I doubt they would want people to choose between fairing and high-buck bits.

I still think they should sell a smaller battery version to lower the cost of entry a bit. They need volume to cover the IET development costs (even if those are largely borne by SMRE) .. and I don't think they'll get it by selling high-end bikes only.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: EmpulseRider on May 02, 2012, 09:33:21 AM
Mine's a black one!!

There really isnt much to paint anymore... part of the tank, thats it, unless they sell a full fairing version (which they should). Would be really cool to have an easily swappable piece :). Could go black, white, or red (those are the color choices, right?) just by swapping that part out. Well, then there is the red seat accents, and the wheel accents too.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Richard230 on May 02, 2012, 10:03:23 AM
I don't think anyone would want to name their bikes the way BMW does. Like why does my F650GS actually have an 800cc motor and why does the new BMW C600 scooter (whose market introduction has been delayed due to technical problems) actually have a 650cc motor?   ::)

I think you will find that "R" is used to describe a "race replica" that uses premium brakes, suspension units and other fancy chassis components, compared to the regular (and presumably lower-priced) Empulse.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on May 02, 2012, 12:58:02 PM
More pics at:
http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/2012/brammo-empulse-r-spied-photos (http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/2012/brammo-empulse-r-spied-photos)

UPDATE: No, it's not there anymore.  I guess they got bit by the copyright cops.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: FreepZ on May 02, 2012, 01:14:03 PM
Can anybody tell me about that thing that it sticking out of the back of the bike? The thing with the break lights, turn signal and licence plate.

Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on May 02, 2012, 01:40:11 PM
Can anybody tell me about that thing that it sticking out of the back of the bike? The thing with the break lights, turn signal and licence plate.

  • Is that some kind of mud guard?
  • How much weight can that thing take? I.e. Can a strap luggage to it? Can I at least use it as an anchor point for bungee cords?
  • What's up with all that clearance? Does it have to be so high off the back tire, or is that just a style thing?
Ha... that's the thing that has the brake lights, turnsignals and license plate.  I doubt that it can hold anything substantial.

Compare with the Kawasaki Ninja:
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Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 02, 2012, 01:42:40 PM
1. The Belly Pan...I wonder if it can be removed...I've removed quite a few parts on my scooters that are either cosmetic or there for this or that reason (protect the company from a lawsuit or silly stuff like that)....

almost all cosmetic plastic comes off my rides....

now this pan might be metal and used so the Empulse can use a flat bike stand. or it may be protecting important internals...

it the former, it can come off...if the latter, well it probably should stay...I said probably, not has too :)

2. Rear light holder....if it is like the Enertia, it can't really hold any real weight. As an anchor point it might be useable. It might be a federal regulation thing or it could be a way to protect from mud splatting on the passenger.

Gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on May 02, 2012, 01:44:09 PM
And, just so you know what we're talking about, here it is:*
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Photo Credit: Eugene Sergienko for Brenda Priddy & Company. Copyright 2012


* I think that, if we are careful to NOT show any more than a small fraction of the bike, we'll probably be okay as far as copyright issues.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Shinysideup on May 02, 2012, 03:16:05 PM
Brammo's announcement cited pannier and topbox, so I'm curious how they're gonna attach. And how easy they'll be to take off and on.

Certainly the taillight support doesn't appear fit for any heavy duty.

My SWMBO probably won't be very happy with that pillion. But I reckon that's what the whole custom seat industry is all about... $igh.

While I liked the 3 parallel lines and skinny belly of the prototype, I think moving the radiator down low is a good idea: coolant and metal are heavy, so it now helps lower the COG. And the scoops on the side looks like they'll funnel a lot more air into the radiator in this position than when it was higher. Looks like I'll be adding a rock screen to it, however, since the fender looks minimal.

Guess I'm just adjusting my perspective to the world of sport bikes!

Mostly, however, I just wanna ride it!
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 02, 2012, 03:22:11 PM
Quote
Mostly, however, I just wanna ride it!

+1...

I don't even like sports bikes and I want to ride it....

:)

gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: skuzzle on May 02, 2012, 04:52:45 PM
I hope the fairing option (if there is one) just looks like the race bike.  Just drill two holes in the front and add small LED headlights.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Richard230 on May 02, 2012, 04:53:14 PM
I find the rear shock position interesting. That shock is really laid down. It must use some sort of linkage to work at that angle.   ???
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 03, 2012, 11:18:38 AM
I also compared it to a photo of my current ride (SV650), and the geometry seems fairly similar, which was something I'm hoping for.  I really like seating position on my SV650.  Does anyone know who the rider is, and how tall they are?


Someone posting on the automedia.com site is saying "That would be Steveo there ttxgp racer" in the pictures.  Can anyone tell me how tall Steveo is? 

the word is--about 5'6"--

Gavin
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: 860 on May 03, 2012, 02:35:52 PM
I also compared it to a photo of my current ride (SV650), and the geometry seems fairly similar, which was something I'm hoping for.  I really like seating position on my SV650.  Does anyone know who the rider is, and how tall they are?


Someone posting on the automedia.com site is saying "That would be Steveo there ttxgp racer" in the pictures.  Can anyone tell me how tall Steveo is? 

the word is--about 5'6"--

Gavin

Cool!  That tells me exactly what I wanted to know.  Based on that, I should have a nice upright position with a nice comfortable bend in the elbows.  It looked like he was having to straight-arm the bars in the pictures, which looked a little hard on the shoulders/upper back for an old guy like me.   I can't wait for a test ride!   
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Lastb0isct on May 03, 2012, 05:29:19 PM
I've been asked by the photographer to pull down the photos.   :(
So, Lastb0isct and anyone else who re-published that photo, could you please modify your posts?

Just saw your post. I'll modify my post.

Edit: Guess it doesn't need modifying.

Also, if that guy it 5'6" i might be SOL.  I'm 6'4"...anyone else tall out there?  Are these shocks height adjustable?!
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Vibetrippin on May 03, 2012, 06:13:15 PM
I don't think the rider in those photos is 5'6"

Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on May 03, 2012, 07:15:55 PM
I don't think the rider in those photos is 5'6"

According to my sources, he is 5'6". 

Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Vibetrippin on May 04, 2012, 09:38:39 AM
Steve may be 5'6", I'm certainly not going to argue about that, I've never met him so I have no idea. And really, since I've never seen the production Empulse in person I may have my scale off. I'm just saying that the rider in the spy photos looks closer to 5'8". Are we sure the rider in these shots is Steve? Is the Empulse that compact that a 5'6" looks that much taller?
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Richard230 on May 04, 2012, 09:46:40 AM
I sat on the original pre-production Empulse last year and it was about the same size as any modern large sport bike. I would guess that its seat height was about 32 inches off the ground.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Brammofan on May 04, 2012, 09:53:34 AM
Lest we forget:

Dimensions (http://m.prnewswire.com/news-releases/brammo-reveals-new-details-for-empulse-and-empulse-r-electric-sport-bikes-147904985.html)
Wheelbase
58.0"    147.32 cm
Seat Height
31.5"     80.0 cm

Width
31.8" (bar end-to-bar end)     80.77 cm
Height
42.6" (highest portion of the dash)    108.2 cm
Length
81.3"   206.5 cm
Ground Clearance
7.3"     18.54 cm
Rake / Trail
24 degrees / 3.8"     
Vehicle Weight
440lbs. / 200kg
Carrying Capacity
Cargo Capacity   365 lbs. / 165.6 kg   
(805 lbs. / 365.1 kg total combined motorcycle, rider, passenger and cargo)
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Vibetrippin on May 04, 2012, 10:51:03 AM
I'm 5'9"+ with a 32" inseam. The rider looks like he'd be able to stand over that seat as comfortably as I could. This makes me think that the rider in those pictures is not Steve. Unless there are other factors at play that I haven't thought about since I'm still busy with a) work that I should be doing instead of b) drooling over these pictures.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Mr.Rodgers on May 04, 2012, 01:41:30 PM
I'm 6'4"...anyone else tall out there?  Are these shocks height adjustable?!

6'4", too.  Craig is a big guy, so I'm banking on him keeping taller guys in mind during production.
Title: Re: Brammo Spied?
Post by: Gavin on May 04, 2012, 01:46:27 PM
Isn't eating your knees and humping the gas tank what sports bikes are all about :)

Which is why I'm more a Plus guy.

Gavin