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Title: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Brammofan on November 13, 2012, 01:27:12 PM
They are posting dozens of photos.  I will try to get them all up here, but for now:
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/552266_10151096449335443_232284417_n.jpg)

Say what you will about their delivery timelines, they continue to have awesome displays at the motorcycle show.

(if anyone wants to post the photos here, feel free to do so.  I am just copying the URL of the photos and bracketing them in the img tags)
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 13, 2012, 01:31:49 PM
I agree that each year the display at Milan improves greatly...I bet the cost of the display increases greatly too :)

It does look great.

Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 13, 2012, 01:35:24 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/30958_10151097698880443_870918784_n.jpg)

Greeters...much nicer than the Walmart Greeters...a fair bit younger too...too young for me, but I'm sure they will get lots of people to meet in Milan...

I do like the video wall...

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/231168_10151096313060443_1752090042_n.jpg)

Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 13, 2012, 01:36:33 PM
What did they do to STEVE O!!!!

looks painful

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530811_10151096307475443_626322641_n.jpg)

Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 13, 2012, 02:51:02 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/522373_10151098029345443_2109635481_n.jpg)

The girls getting attention...

Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: protomech on November 13, 2012, 03:39:42 PM
I'm glad to see their spokesmodels are wearing more clothing this year, to be honest.

Pretty bikes + pretty ladies = winning.
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 14, 2012, 01:17:21 PM
Good morning from Milan:

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/603943_10151098786240443_808596569_n.jpg)

Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 14, 2012, 08:10:01 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/980_10151099490630443_1997449795_n.jpg)

more to follow

g
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 14, 2012, 08:12:04 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/295726_10151099490860443_321634688_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/405164_10151099491250443_1099488210_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/69400_10151099491415443_935938750_n.jpg)

g
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 14, 2012, 08:14:24 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579114_10151099491630443_974373471_n.jpg)

2 floors of Brammo goodness...

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/430671_10151099492150443_883184377_n.jpg)

and speaking of goodness...my goodness...i do love knee high boots

Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 14, 2012, 08:17:08 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/530882_10151099493455443_2132408084_n.jpg)

of course these boots don't quite have the same affect on me...

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/579204_10151099489390443_240962268_n.jpg)

and thespecialone (Mr Stewart)...just before all the screens went out :)

Gavin
Title: Re: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Brammofan on November 15, 2012, 12:17:44 AM
Thanks for posting all these, Gavin. I love knee high boots, too.
Title: Re: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: oml on November 15, 2012, 10:43:49 AM
Thanks for posting all these, Gavin. I love knee high boots, too.
I agree with both. Everyone loves high boots (on women). And curly hair! Curly hair is great. Especially in red.


Well, to add something to the topic (hint: ironie): I've got my driving license today, after 3.5 months of hard work and one failed attempt. Im a class A Fuehrer now :)
In view of my miserable failure on the first attempt (killed the motor ~15 times in less than ten minutes out of nervosity) it feels quite good. Horray!
Cant wait to do a test drive on a zero/enertia and just enjoy not clutching at all. I hate this thing.
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 15, 2012, 10:49:47 AM
Congrats!!

And yes, a major advantage of the Empulse is you can use the clutch...or not...(well except highway riding...need to shift up for that)...but in the city I may or may not shift much at all...haven't decided yet...still waiting for my test drive...

And never will you stall again. (stalling is A) embarrassing, B) slightly dangerous as the car behind you might just keep going, and C) embarrassing... :) )
 

Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: protomech on November 15, 2012, 01:33:30 PM
Congrats!!

And yes, a major advantage of the Empulse is you can use the clutch...or not...(well except highway riding...need to shift up for that)...but in the city I may or may not shift much at all...haven't decided yet...still waiting for my test drive...

Zero picked up a MSF certification (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/fleet/motorcycle-training/) for their 2012 XU. While learning to use a clutch is a very valuable skill for motorcyclists in general, there are a number of two-wheeled vehicles which do not need it. Many scooters use a CVT, and a small number of motorcycles have a dual-clutch automated transmission option.

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And never will you stall again. (stalling is A) embarrassing, B) slightly dangerous as the car behind you might just keep going, and C) embarrassing... :) )

Been there.. done that.. would like to not repeat.

A clutch is a crutch. It's present on the Empulse because most motorcyclists are used to it.. but it's not needed to start from a stop, and I wonder how much it's really needed to shift between gears.
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: oml on November 15, 2012, 02:45:17 PM
And never will you stall again. (stalling is A) embarrassing, B) slightly dangerous as the car behind you might just keep going, and C) embarrassing... :) )
Gavin
and D) the immense loss of concentration just to keep your shitty ICE running could be spend much better elsewhere. Really, everywhere. I might drive clutchless while readings eg. Russels Introduction to mathematical philosophy and would still be a better driver than now :D
Well, I wouldnt have made my license if I didnt knew I had a high chance of getting a non-stalling vehicle in the near future - now I've just to decide which one.

Zero picked up a MSF certification (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/fleet/motorcycle-training/) for their 2012 XU. While learning to use a clutch is a very valuable skill for motorcyclists in general, there are a number of two-wheeled vehicles which do not need it. Many scooters use a CVT, and a small number of motorcycles have a dual-clutch automated transmission option.
Over here not one has realised that vehicles may have automatic transmission. While I can see that people used to manual shifting dont want to use those strange automatic shifters (you know, the ones with D for drive, O for overtaking etc) as they (at least seem to) work like those made in the 70ies which actually werent really that great, but I cannot understand why people dont use semiautomatic transmission (automated clutch, but you choose the gear yourself), which seem to merge the best of both worlds. Also, im quite sure that no human has the ability to surpass electrical system matching the speed of the disks. Then again, I havent seen that much humans till now :)
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 15, 2012, 03:19:39 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/305531_10151100442890443_1017774675_n.jpg)

either before the start of a day or after closing...the quiet time...


(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/14203_10151100443145443_2078311991_n.jpg)

they definitely have a large "booth"...and the second floor adds many square feet...


(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/15032_10151100443420443_815184356_n.jpg)

if we keep seeing AS smiling...well it is slightly unnerving :)  Must be all the Italian wine...and women...

Gavin

Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 15, 2012, 03:22:19 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/12747_10151100443555443_1204231949_n.jpg)

I'll take one of each....


(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/542830_10151100443760443_948599099_n.jpg)


(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/486151_10151100443960443_417965110_n.jpg)

and is this Greg practicing his long putter?


Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Brammofan on November 15, 2012, 03:33:39 PM
Dang, you're fast.  I was just coming here to post these. 

Note, also that Brammo has asked:
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OK Brammo friends, what do you want to see from EICMA? Our team interacting with the crowd? Our amazing Brammo Girls? The view from our stand?

Let us know!

After a suggestion by another commenter, I seconded the vote for
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I want to see Steve and the girls doing the Gangnam style.

Vote early, vote often. (https://www.facebook.com/BrammoInc/posts/10151099612425443)
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Brammofan on November 15, 2012, 03:54:59 PM
The EICMA videos are starting to roll in. 
EICMA 2012 - A tope de modelos, azafatas, chicas y motos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJLsl8YjzgE&t=3m40s#ws)
Watch the whole video for a taste of EICMA.  The spot at 3:40 is the only view of a Brammo product you're going to see, unfortunately. 
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Brammofan on November 15, 2012, 04:05:40 PM
From the Flickr feed of the editor of MotorcyclePowersportsNews.com:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8481/8188057803_2e6e18f09c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/babcox/8188057803/)
DSC04442 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/babcox/8188057803/#) by Babcox (http://www.flickr.com/people/babcox/), on Flickr

He had also posted a photo of the Milan Police testing the Enertia Plus but it was a lousy photo.  Hopeful that Brammo has a better one.
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Brammofan on November 15, 2012, 04:34:10 PM
More, by searching the EICMA tag on flickr and wading through some of the photos:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8342/8187404172_b33363a2bd.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/and22/8187404172/)
0146-EICMA 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/and22/8187404172/#) by and22 (http://www.flickr.com/people/and22/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8060/8186364257_db035528c5.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/and22/8186364257/)
0148-EICMA 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/and22/8186364257/#) by and22 (http://www.flickr.com/people/and22/), on Flickr

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8489/8187402926_53edd8e238.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/and22/8187402926/)
0145-EICMA 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/and22/8187402926/#) by and22 (http://www.flickr.com/people/and22/), on Flickr

Oh, and this was posted by "Brammo El Moto France" on Facebook:
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/293705_169548596523323_1750452341_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Vibetrippin on November 15, 2012, 06:17:12 PM
Were there motorcycles in the above video?

I kid, it was actually kind of fun to try figure out what brand the bike was by what the girls were wearing.
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 15, 2012, 06:50:52 PM
ha...i didn't watch the video till after Proto...

I have to be old as i kept thinking, "dang, there are soooo many nice bikes there...I wish the person taking the video would focus more on that..." my second thought...."how can i get Brammo to take me to Milan next year?"


I saw half a dozen bikes I want to ride right now :)


Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 15, 2012, 06:55:53 PM
of course being old doesn't mean I can't send the link to a motorcycle/scooter friend of mine (who is half my age) and type something inappropriate like "Watch this link from EICMA in Milan. So many I want to ride. And motorcycles."


But all talk...


Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: protomech on November 15, 2012, 06:57:54 PM
Proto has not yet seen the video.
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 15, 2012, 07:00:12 PM
damn it...old age and bad eyes and small brain....


Vibetrippin, not proto...

G
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 15, 2012, 10:45:28 PM
Wheelie time in Milan

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/75933_10151100909775443_57401807_n.jpg)

Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 15, 2012, 10:47:01 PM
This is Greg...if I'm right, he also was the one doing a wheelie with the Empulse.

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/542750_10151100909985443_172027252_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 15, 2012, 11:26:31 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/293863_10151100042550443_1820755432_n.jpg)

SteveO in the Hizzow....

G
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: implovator on November 15, 2012, 11:58:11 PM
God bless the Italians. They really know what's important in life.
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: protomech on November 16, 2012, 02:50:19 AM
Every single one of those girls fail the ATGATT check.
Title: Re: Re: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Brammofan on November 16, 2012, 06:36:45 AM
." my second thought...."how can i get Brammo to take me to Milan next year?"
I was thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 16, 2012, 09:06:23 AM
Every single one of those girls fail the ATGATT check.

HA!

G
Title: Re: Re: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 16, 2012, 09:08:23 AM
." my second thought...."how can i get Brammo to take me to Milan next year?"
I was thinking the same thing.

No! My idea....
G
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 16, 2012, 09:09:54 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A70-iswCYAEkHtv.jpg:large)

Greg being interviewed at EICMA by Canadian TV

G
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 16, 2012, 12:10:19 PM
people love free stuff...

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/575133_10151101424715443_1227207423_n.jpg)

g
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 16, 2012, 12:11:36 PM
and new "caption this" photo....

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/561673_10151101479105443_1800430680_n.jpg)

g
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 16, 2012, 12:14:20 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/230172_10151100899385443_258321804_n.jpg)


(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/543030_10151100899945443_231648980_n.jpg)

comfy....

Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 16, 2012, 12:15:32 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/542608_10151100903795443_1554862921_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/559075_10151100899485443_1967105257_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/522419_10151100899315443_2141820914_n.jpg)

g
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 16, 2012, 12:17:54 PM
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/602267_10151100899235443_1681527750_n.jpg)

WANT!

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/533786_10151100899595443_854717479_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/402415_10151100899835443_955830356_n.jpg)

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/561556_10151100899675443_775420546_n.jpg)

and finally AS not smiling and creeping me out...plus, nice tie :)

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/6224_10151100899980443_824464607_n.jpg)

I think I can read his lips...he is saying, and this is Gavin's bike.... :)

Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 16, 2012, 12:19:34 PM
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/29827_10151100900030443_169138616_n.jpg)

Gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: protomech on November 17, 2012, 01:46:08 PM
Here's a Brammo EICMA video .. presumably this was playing in Brammo's booth.
Brammo ad EICMA 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMIsuFmEpjM#ws)

"Now shipping in the United States, the Empulse R will be available in Europe next summer."
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 17, 2012, 04:12:50 PM
nice find proto

gavin
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Gavin on November 20, 2012, 03:09:39 PM
The EICMA videos are starting to roll in.  
EICMA 2012 - A tope de modelos, azafatas, chicas y motos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJLsl8YjzgE&t=3m40s#ws)
Watch the whole video for a taste of EICMA.  The spot at 3:40 is the only view of a Brammo product you're going to see, unfortunately.  

a few bikes jumped out at me on that video...but the one I was most "dang, I might have to buy that" was a scooter I had never seen before....

because it is a special, one off version of the T-Max (one of my favorite scooters gets a nice mod)....

I hope it stays a one off, or I might have to buy one...it is pretty sweet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCyAYeoLv-w#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCyAYeoLv-w#ws)]Roland Sands Hyper Modified TMAX 530cc


(http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/2012-RSD_TMAX-Hyper-Modifie.jpg)
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: Brammofan on November 27, 2012, 10:10:00 AM
Greg Stoermer wrote an "insider's report" on the EICMA visit:

http://www.brammo.com/blogs/?p=1748 (http://www.brammo.com/blogs/?p=1748)

An excerpt:
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There was a noticeable change in attitude and acceptance in this years show than last.  Perhaps because we had a more grandiose booth?  Or because of our location?  I am unsure, but people knew who we were, knew about the bikes, and it was a rare moment when there were not people packing the floor of the Brammo Area.  Designers stopped by as well, some students, some just to say hi, others to show me their own Brammo creations.  Overall it was a very very positive show for Brammo and myself to attend
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: protomech on November 27, 2012, 11:30:42 AM
Good review of EICMA 2012 (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2012/11/a-99-percenters-view-of-eicma-2012-2/) by Michael Uhlarik, who is responsible both for the headlights used by the 2012-2013 Zeros and the Empulse, as well as the Amarok P1 (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/tagged/amarok-p1/) which hopefully will compete in TTXGP 2013.

Edit: No mention of electric bikes, but it's a good description of the lack of innovation of the incumbent gas bike industry. Brammo and Zero probably have 5x as many R&D engineers, proportionally, as Honda, Suzuki, et al.

Zero was not at EICMA this year, but Brammo was there and CRP unveiled the Energica.
Title: Re: The "Brammo at EICMA" thread
Post by: ttxgpfan on December 11, 2012, 12:19:06 AM
I don't know.  It's hard for me to picture anyone having more engineers than Honda, proportional or not.