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Brammo Empulse Discussion => Brammo Empulse => Topic started by: Drokz on October 15, 2020, 01:38:06 PM
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i will buy an 2014 Brammo Empulse R, with 7500km .
So they use pouch lipo or liion cells, after 6years and not many driven...
Would the battery have less capacity, after 6 years and not having driven much?
I work daily with 18650 for bicycle batterys, and after 5 a6 years they are dead or end life
so ive concern with the battery :-\ :-\
Regards !!
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Yeah that's a tough one, the battery warranty is 5 years or 100,000 miles for Victory batteries. So you'd figure around 5 years or 100,000k miles it's capactiy would probably drop significantly. It depends on how it's been cared for. Has it been garaged? When they don't ride it for long periods of times do they keep it at 50-80% SOC? There's a lot of contributing factors for battery life.
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I will see tommorow for the bike... So Iam asking him.
If he charged up en stand alone for a long time, is best that i not buying the bike?
Is there anything I should be looking out for? Weak parts or something?
I gone ride with it
(Sorry for my bad English)
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Ask for the bikes onboard log files. they will tell alot.
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Inspect the motor assembly for leaks. One of the problems with these bikes is leaking gearbox oil or coolant.
You check to see if it charges fine also.
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Soooo :D
The bike has no leaks, 1500 km ago has the o ring replaced
the bike always store in an heated garage.
the owner says that he driving much when he bought it new, 5000km, then he drive it very rare.
The bike is in new condition.
the owners dont know it where to find the logs ...
so anyone an manual for te bike ?
the price is 3200Euro = 3750dollar
any thought ?
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The bike will probably be fine, but the price is suspiciously low.
Does the owner have purchase documents for his bike?
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Yes, idd, but I'm going to take a chance anyway.
He has the purchase papers.
For reading the logs, can I do that myself? Or do I have to go to a dealer?
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You can read the logs yourself if you have the software to do it.
Some error messages appear randomly and either disappear or can usually be resolved.
If the Brammo Empulse R is capable of driving and can be charged, it should be okay.
Have you bought it yet or not? The price is very good.
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Ohhh ok thats good !!
Yes i have bought hem 8) it drive soooo quiet ;D ;D ;D
if you at sport, full throttle after 10sec it say 1cell battery low,
but if you gentle with the throttle, there is no faults
now and then is faultcode B9....
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B9 is moisture in the battery. It's not something that should be worried about supposedly. I am taking my bike to the dealer to see if they can fix this fault code on my bike. Its annoying it's on all the time on mine.
But yeah you got a great deal on that Empulse have fun!
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Hi guys, I discovered some weird things;
-I rode 10/23 to 53% at 2:00 PM,
and at 8:30 pm i got back featured and it was only 46%
-31/10 rode till 41% at 16:00h
at 20:00h it whas only 33%
-7/11 rode it till 20% at 12:30
17:30 it whas only 2%
they no sound of cooling or something else.
so ive wondering what it can be ?
battery bleeding ? if i charged it up till 100% the next day is 100, the day after to... so ????
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That's pretty normal. My bike does this. When the battery is warm (like after your done riding it) it will have a higher state of charge/voltage. When it cools down it goes down. At 20% SOC you will want to start looking for a charging if you are not at your destination yet, because it may suddenly go to 0% it's happened to me a few times, they you'll be like what the hell!?
I usually plug my bike in around midnight if I am charging it and I will usually see it at a lower SOC than when I parked it.
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Little bit late, but thanks !
have anyone here an DC port for charging ?
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I haven't seen Brammo Empulse DC charging yet.
There is only a solution for 9.3kW three-phase AC charging.
https://www.elektroroller-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=6325
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wow, i think not so good for the battery... :P
So, I have a DIY powerwall (18kwh) at home, and want to charge through it,
but my inverter can only do 2000watt, so I am looking for a type 1 j1772 8a charger.
Does anyone have experience with that ? is it certain that the brammo will accept the charge?
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Drokz
I think the bike only draws about 1400 watts on 110 volts or is your power wall inverter supplying 220 v? If that is the case then it draws 3000 watts. You did mention a type 1 EVSE so I assumed you were using 110 v ac.
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Hi, I live in UK and charge my Empulse with the evse off my car, shows 17A on the dash (it's a 2.2kW unit @230v). If I use the 16A wall charger I have the bike can show 28A near full charge.
One curious thing I have seen though. I plug it it and apparently nothing happens. It says charging but 0A. However I placed a power meter in the line and the bike is taking 440W. Took 25mins, then charging. Temp here is only a few degrees above freezing so I guess the cells need to warm up hoping that goes away in warmer weather.
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I think what you are seeing is the battery heaters which draw about 300 watts. If the temp is less than about 60F they will come on, even when you are riding. You should be getting a warning on the dash that says something like batteries too cold. This is normal opperation. Lithium cells should not be charged at less than about 40F so the bike is protecting the cells. Be happy you have battery heaters built into the bike. In cold weather it is good to plug in for 20 minutes or so even if you don't need more charge just to warm the cells up to minimise voltage sag. also, if you just hop on and go when it's cold the heaters come on running off the batteries and draw 300 watts trying to warm the batteries and you will get a power cut back until the cells have warmed up.
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Iam from belgium so its here 230V
the charger says 230V 15ampere so 3450watt
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You could use a portable charger set to the proper voltage which is 116.2 volts. I tapped into the battery terminals and have an Anderson connector on the right side near the brake reservoir. I can use any size charger I want. You will be hooking directly to the batt plus and minus so there will be battery voltage on the Anderson connector so keep it covered when not in use. I hooked the wires to the negative of the most negative cell and the plus wire to the fuse on the battery side of the contactor. You will need to have the bike turned on or the key in the park light position in order for the percentage gauge to count up the amps going in. It will also work when charging normally with 230v ac. The green leds on the battery modules need to be flashing indicating that they have power. I believe the balancers in the individual modules will function but not the main unit. This is not a problem if you charge normally once in a while. Keep an eye on the high and low cell reading on the dash. I use the connection to connect extra batteries also or to add chargers for faster charge times when I'm on long trips.
Hope this helps
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Hi, thanks for the info. It'll be a while, 6 weeks or so before a journey with no heaters zapping the range as still cold here.
I might try to connect an Anderson connector in, I have a 3kW charger and connector left over from the zero SR I briefly owned. Same voltages. Can you use onboard and auxiliary at the same time? Would help longer journeys. I'll look for the locations you describe.
I have the EU clipper creek evse also but believe the bike will only take 2850W. Max. UK car evse are only 10A, so close to your 2000w limit..
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Wouldn't you just know it, I now have the clipper creek manual and a 8A unit is available putting out 1.8kW. ECS-10. Not sure how easy it would be to obtain one or the cost.
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Yes, you can use the onboard charger and the portable charger at the same time and the extra amps will show on the instrument screen as normal. I replaced the 16 amp J1772 port with a 32 amp one and ran a 2.5mm2 cable to a plug near the Anderson plug so when I'm charging at a public charging station I plug in the bike and then I have 220v to plug in the extra charger up to 3000 watts. The public chargers here in the US are mostly 6.6 KW or more so I can charge at 6K