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Brammo Empulse Discussion => Brammo Empulse => Topic started by: EmpulseRider on May 28, 2013, 10:48:04 PM
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I realize that the frame slider bolts are 10mm size, but after receiving the Woodcraft frame sliders for the Suzuki SV650 I realized that they are definitely not the right sliders for the Empulse. I think the Shogun sliders for the SV650 may work, but would just like to confirm with the community here before I order more sliders... what frame sliders did you get and where did you get em? Thanks!
Update: Im a bonehead and put this in the wrong section, needs to be in Empulse Mods. Sorry about that :(
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10 mm front
8 mm rear
Since these are the first I've bought, I have no idea what the $100 ones have that the cheaper ones don't. Mine work fine to get the bike off the floor. End of story, for me. ;)
Here are the sizes found in the "Assorted Farkles" thread. I bought a pair of these cheap rear swingarm spools:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CWA7MW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CWA7MW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
The fit perfectly on the bike and on my swingarm stand. The color doesn't match the black swingarm, oh well.
On a side note... Would it be possible to somehow create threads for different types of mods? A lot of great information has been posted that is hard to find. It would be nice if we could have sections for sliders/spools, horns, lights, luggage, locks, etc.
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I bought some woodcraft swingarm spools that work great:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A6GUDMS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A6GUDMS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Looks like I paid a bit more for em then you did, but I really like Woodcraft's stuff.
I read through the "Assorted Farkles" thread as well but Shiny didnt mention (specifically) what he used for the 10mm front sliders.
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For the fronts, I ended up getting these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/250953543238?item=250953543238&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:L:OC:US:3160&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/250953543238?item=250953543238&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:L:OC:US:3160&vxp=mtr)
I threw away the custom mounting bits and just used the tubes, which are longer than the track stand spools, offering more protection.
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Thanks Shiny, I just ordered a pair myself.
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I'm suppose to be on the list for the "official" Brammo ones...but don't know what sizing they are.
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I'll post more pictures shortly, but I don't know that I'd recommend putting frame sliders on the front.
I dropped the bike going about 30mph (hooray for wet muni tracks) and the sum total of the damage was . . . a bent handlebar and right peg and a broken right turn signal. The frame/carbon fiber/bodywork/etc etc were not even grazed.
Because the 'tank' is so skinny, it's basically suspended above the ground by the peg and bar end. I suspect a frame slider jutting out might just serve to catch on the ground and perhaps do more harm than good.
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Some on amazon for cheaper... Will report when I get em.
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I'll post more pictures shortly, but I don't know that I'd recommend putting frame sliders on the front.
... I suspect a frame slider jutting out might just serve to catch on the ground and perhaps do more harm than good.
Here's a real-word test, yesterday, at Thunderhill:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151406240975443&set=a.442402705442.239501.108820970442&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151406240975443&set=a.442402705442.239501.108820970442&type=1&theater)
FWIW, Brammo chose the front slider to be the longer variety. Looks like it totally saved the Parker logo ::)
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I got these: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008K7VSOM/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008K7VSOM/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Installed in under a minute. Tossed the adapters.
One is longer than the other, Put it on the gear shifter side because it doesn't fold. If anyone wants to order a pair and ship to me, I'll give them the longer or shorter one and send.... so they'd be a matched set.
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Here's a real-word test, yesterday, at Thunderhill:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151406240975443&set=a.442402705442.239501.108820970442&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151406240975443&set=a.442402705442.239501.108820970442&type=1&theater)
Haha yep, I was there at the track! Saw the damage first-hand; the slider barely got touched if at all. In any case, both of the Empulses I've seen in street accidents (including mine) did not have sliders, and there was not a scratch anywhere on the bodywork.
However -- both of the street Empulses had handlebars! Clip-ons probably would change my opinion.
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What is the thread size and pitch of the Frame Slider fitment on the side of the bike?
I want to get these:
http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Black-Motorbike-Motorcycle-Sliders/dp/B00DANH5B6/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1408497200&vehicle=2013-14-22368-20-----------2-0&sr=1-1-catcorr&ymm=2013%3Atriumph%3Aspeed+triple+r+abs&keywords=motorcycle+slider (http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Black-Motorbike-Motorcycle-Sliders/dp/B00DANH5B6/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1408497200&vehicle=2013-14-22368-20-----------2-0&sr=1-1-catcorr&ymm=2013%3Atriumph%3Aspeed+triple+r+abs&keywords=motorcycle+slider)
But I'll have to hit the hardware store to get bolts to attach them.
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If you scroll up this page, you'll read this;
10 mm front
8 mm rear
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But what is the pitch?
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This is my best SWAG answer:
I found this chart:
http://www.revzilla.com/assets/0000/5088/woodcraft10mm_swingarm_spool_sliders.pdf (http://www.revzilla.com/assets/0000/5088/woodcraft10mm_swingarm_spool_sliders.pdf)
Only the KTM bikes specify a coarse thread, meaning all the rest must be fine threaded, which, I believe is 1.25 pitch.
Somewhere, I have a bolt size plastic tool that has pitch guides on the edge, but I can't find it at the moment.
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Yea I just don't want to cross thread it with the wrong pitch or have it vibrate loss. Thanks for the help. If nothing decisive is found I'll just go with 1.25.
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Figured I'd share my slider choice with everyone. For really cheap slider solution:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DANH5B6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DANH5B6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HQR3X0Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HQR3X0Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Works great on the bike.
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I had contacted WoodCraft in early January about sliders for the Empluse. They told me they had been working with Brammo and I would be able to purchase them from Brammo soon. A few weeks went by and after a couple of emails, I was put in touch with the service manager. I was able to order a set of sliders for $69 plus shipping.
(http://s1.postimg.org/cdrq7qhyn/IMG_20150226_083232.jpg)
WoodCraft OEM Slider for Brammo Empluse R