Brammo Owners Forum
General => Off Topic => Topic started by: 7racer on November 07, 2013, 11:45:38 PM
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I signed up for pre-order/testing.
Looks interesting and something I would love to have!
http://www.skullyhelmets.com (http://www.skullyhelmets.com)
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Ohhhhh yes oh yes I am signed the hell up for that now as well.
Screw the Givi bags, if I get that helmet Brammo is going to need to get cracking on releasing some actual laser cannons.
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LOL
let me know if you hear anything before I do!
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I signed up too.
I NEED this for that awful Cesar Chavez to 101S merge!
(Besides being just way cool)
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got an email a couple days back that I got confirmed for their beta applications.
They mentioned in the email that people would start getting notified beginning in February on a rolling basis.
Anyone else get the email?
good to see that it might not be vaporware.
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There is an article about Skully Helmets in the February issue of the Bay Area's City Bike magazine. They attended a company announcement about the helmet (which is said to be manufactured by a major U.S. helmet company), but were not allowed to give it a try. It was said that the helmet would be introduced to the market this spring but the City Bike editors have their doubts that it could happen that quickly.
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Yeah...I was hoping to be on the Beta Test list, but haven't heard back. I figure any helmet I wear gets a certain amount of attention...but not sure they are interested in the New Mexico area for testing.
I know they are talking about getting helmets to some Beta people in the spring of 2014, and more in the summer of 2014...so I imagine helmets to customers wouldn't be till Fall at earliest.
Gavin
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positive review on the helmet
http://adventuretouringmotorcycle.com/skully-helmet/ (http://adventuretouringmotorcycle.com/skully-helmet/)
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the email sent to me...
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Yeah...I was hoping to be on the Beta Test list, but haven't heard back. I figure any helmet I wear gets a certain amount of attention...but not sure they are interested in the New Mexico area for testing.
I know they are talking about getting helmets to some Beta people in the spring of 2014, and more in the summer of 2014...so I imagine helmets to customers wouldn't be till Fall at earliest.
Gavin
Gavin,
with all of the pictures you post on social media and the miles you log, I would think you would be a super early beta tester!
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I got the same email which made me think "Yay, I get a beta helmet!" but on rereading it I think they are simply saying "this confirms that you contacted us and we wanted to let you know that we got the submission and will be selecting people soon".
So, if you think you applied and didn't get the email, I think that may mean that your request may have gotten lost in transit? Or maybe the confirmations are just going out slowly as they process them into their selection database?
Mine arrived on the 24th.
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Hello!
Goggle translator: our helmet supplier also offers soon to a hud.
http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1085785_motorcycle-helmets-getting-first-head-up-display (http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1085785_motorcycle-helmets-getting-first-head-up-display)
http://www.emotorraeder.at/Reevu-Helm (http://www.emotorraeder.at/Reevu-Helm)
Gerhard
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVYKycsNEu0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVYKycsNEu0)
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So it sounds like signing up to be a beta tester simply gets you an earlier pre-order chance and they are looking to ship by "the holidays". I guess I can stop holding my breath now...
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So it sounds like signing up to be a beta tester simply gets you an earlier pre-order chance and they are looking to ship by "the holidays". I guess I can stop holding my breath now...
Yep. Was disappointed to hear that too.
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Well, the helmet is up for pre-order now but bummer never got to test it. Anyone going to give it a go?
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Too rich for my budget.
I get almost 180 degree coverage with bar end mirrors, and never change lanes without a head check, so this reduces the utility, for me, to the gee whiz, really cool, latest tech kind of attraction and THAT's what I don't have the budget for!
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The $1400 price tag actually didn't surprise me that much. When you consider the cost of my helmet right now is:
Shoei RF-1200: $450
Gopro: $400
(+ SD card + mounts + accoutrements) ~ $100
Sena 20S: $250
Etymotics MC5 earphones: $60
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That's almost to $1300 right there, and that doesn't even include a damn Android phone hardware and the HUD setup and whatever other custom stuff is in the Skully. The reason I have not pulled the trigger . . . . .
Their 'preorder' process is an Indiegogo campaign?!??! Dear god don't even get me started. Google around for just what exactly Indiegogo and their 'flexible funding' model entails. Here's one link at random (http://wp.josh.com/2014/01/21/read-this-before-you-contribute-to-an-indiegogo-campaign/). When you "donate" money to an Indiegogo campaign, you are not buying a product. There is absolutely nothing preventing Skully from simply taking the money and running. While I don't think they'll do that -- there's also nothing preventing them from not coming out with a product for 2 years, or coming out with something vastly different from what they promised, or who knows what.
Utilizing something like a crowdfunding website (and particularly, one as notorious as Indiegogo) as a 'preorder' platform just left a very bad taste in my mouth. I hope Skully does great, and I hope the product turns out well, but I'll be waiting for an actual store in which I can place an actual order. You know -- one with a receipt.
Also, they don't make one in yellow. >:(
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LOL good points.
I have done some Kickstarter and Indigogo campaigns and it can be a PITA.
Would really love this for GPS and the HUD...less so for rear view but it would have been nice to see how useful it would have been in real life first.
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I personally like the Nuviz better since you can mount on any helmet.... But it's still a kick-start.
http://www.ridenuviz.com
Good news is that as more come out.... Prices will likely start to be competitive between manufacturers.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/08/20/utter-failure-of-kreyos-smartwatch-with-1-5-million-in-backing-shows-the-continued-perils-of-hardware-crowdfunding/ (http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/08/20/utter-failure-of-kreyos-smartwatch-with-1-5-million-in-backing-shows-the-continued-perils-of-hardware-crowdfunding/)
Caveat emptor .. though with indiegogo and kickstarted you're not actually buying anything. Caveat donor?
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Yeah, don't get me wrong: I'm a big fan of crowdfunding. I really like the model (especially for games (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/obsidian/project-eternity)).
What stinks to me in this particular case is:
A.) Indiegogo. Indiegogo is a much worse platform to me than Kickstarter. Indiegogo is notorious for being a slightly shadier, loose and groovy version of the crowdfunding model. Take for example their 'flexible funding' feature, whereby even if a campaign doesn't raise all the money, the person gets the money anyway (http://timidmonster.com/why-flexible-funding-campaigns-on-indiegogo-are-dangerous/).
B.) Hardware. It is much easier for me to contribute to campaigns for software or other intangibles, because even if they miss their deadlines or get something wrong or whatever, developers can simply push some updates and fix it. Hardware you have to get 100% right the first time. Proto's example of the Kreyos is a good one. Also more ridiculous implosions like the Healbe (http://pando.com/tag/healbe/).
C.) It's a motorcycle helmet. The most vital (literally) piece of equipment I use on a daily basis. If I get it and it doesn't fit right or something's wrong with it or who knows what, I want some recourse. I don't think Skully would be douchebags about it, but who knows. I want a receipt and a credit card transaction going to Skully Systems Inc. -- not an Indiegogo terms of service (https://www.indiegogo.com/about/terms) that refers to an ethereal 'perk' for my 'contribution.'
Indiegogo is an online crowdfunding venue for people and entities seeking to raise funds for their own Campaigns and to contribute to the Campaigns of others. Campaign Owners can offer gifts or rewards in the form of tangible items or intangible services (collectively, "Perks") to Contributors. Perks are not offered for sale. Indiegogo makes no representations about the quality, safety, morality or legality of any Campaign, Perk or Contribution or the truth or accuracy of your User Content (as defined below) posted on the Service. Indiegogo does not represent that Campaign Owners will deliver Perks or that Contributions will be used as described in the Campaign. Users use the Service at their own risk.
Haha what's most hilarious is I think we're all pretty crazy early adopter types here -- what with buying Brammos and all -- and even we're balking at this.
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According to the September issue of City Bike the kickstarter campaign for Skully Helmets was started on Indiegogo on the morning of August 11. Two days later they had raised almost 1 million dollars. I hope they use the money to actually produce and sell the helmets.
In the meantime, there seems to be no end to unusual helmet designs lately:
http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/idea-a-see-through-motorcycle-helmet.htm (http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/idea-a-see-through-motorcycle-helmet.htm)
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If you want to see behind you, you can actually buy these: http://www.reevu.com/ (http://www.reevu.com/)
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I personally like the Nuviz better since you can mount on any helmet.... But it's still a kick-start.
http://www.ridenuviz.com (http://www.ridenuviz.com)
Good news is that as more come out.... Prices will likely start to be competitive between manufacturers.
It's not the first heads-up display for motorcycles. I still have my sportvue, and loved it when I was using it. But the company went out of business years ago. https://www.google.com/search?q=sportvue+motorcycle+heads+up+display&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ikn9U6a5Eo3coATS6YDwBw&ved=0CEIQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=923 (https://www.google.com/search?q=sportvue+motorcycle+heads+up+display&espv=2&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ikn9U6a5Eo3coATS6YDwBw&ved=0CEIQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=923)
But this new one has a lot more features, for sure.