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Brammo Enertia Discussion => Brammo Enertia Plus => Topic started by: WanderLust on May 09, 2011, 01:36:14 AM
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Here's an excerpt from Brammo's Facebook page.
Yesterday = Saturday...
Interesting so looks like the Enertia plus is going to make it for 2011 after all, which also means, single speed only for now...
But I may be tempted to get this for now, till the new empulse comes our and then use the 2500 credit from brammo and the tax credit i may have a chance of getting this year and not next...
thoughts?
Cameron Clavin
when it the Enertia plus coming out?
Yesterday at 7:00pm · Like ·
Brammo Production starts in June and there should be bikes in US dealers shortly after then.... unless Asian and European dealers order them all !!!
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Cameron Clavin If I pre-ordered one online would I have a better chance at getting my hands on one?
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Brammo We will pass the pre-orders to dealers and they will fulfill those pre-orders first....so I would pre-order if I were you.
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Interesting because I thought Brammo was going to email those who pre-ordered 3 months before the bikes were to be delivered.
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I had to go and find these posts/comments myself to prove they were accurate. (No offense, WanderLust... there's a lot of misinformation flying about).
I admit I'm surprised to hear this news. Either things are going much better/faster than I'm aware of, or someone at Brammo mis-spoke. We'll find out soon enough.
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Interesting because I thought Brammo was going to email those who pre-ordered 3 months before the bikes were to be delivered.
Right?
I had to go and find these posts/comments myself to prove they were accurate. (No offense, WanderLust... there's a lot of misinformation flying about).
I admit I'm surprised to hear this news. Either things are going much better/faster than I'm aware of, or someone at Brammo mis-spoke. We'll find out soon enough.
None taken Brammofan, I would expect nothing less of you :D
I was just going thought their FB page last night, and I pretty much jumped outta bed when I read that comment...
And for the record, I hope it's the former, that would be swell, and we can get off Brammo's back for not getting out at least something this year.
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Interesting because I thought Brammo was going to email those who pre-ordered 3 months before the bikes were to be delivered.
I was thinking about this a little more, it is possible that even if production starts in June, lets say mid or end June, by the time they actually have significant numbers to push to dealers, send them out to the dealers and have them ready for sale, it may just be late August or even September or later...
so maybe they think they haven't hit that 3 month mark yet...
3 months from Production and 3 months for Delivery are two very different things...
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3 months from Production and 3 months for Delivery are two very different things...
True. We will have to wait until they chime in.
Meanwhile, they're racing the Empulse RR this weekend at Infineon, and will be racing the Engage and Encite in another motocross event later this month. The " 'lil company that could" is spread rather thin.
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Well my services are still available for some pre-delivery testing of the Plus....
Or they could just sell me one :)
The tougher choice will be if the Plus is pushed back and all Brammos models come out in 2012...then I just might go dual sport SMS model...(my heart kinda belongs to the Plus, but I could get quite a bit of use out of an off-road model).
city commuter on the weekdays and back-road thrash-about** bike on the weekends...heck even if the Engage isn't here till 2012, well I could easily put a couple to a few thousand test mile on an Engage SMS for them between now and then...I do ride everyday here in the beautiful Southwest.
Maybe we should start a thread of all those willing to be test riders...of course that list would likely be every member here :)
Gavin
**and by "back-road thrash-about bike", what I mean to say is "Bike I will treat as gentle as a newborn Harp Seal pup".
(http://www.ejphoto.com/images_of_the_month/QB_HarpSeal09.jpg)
photo of Harp Seal pup volunteering to be a Brammo test rider...of course the lack of opposable thumbs makes driving the Engage and Encite models a bit tougher. Plus the back flipper basically eliminates any shifty model.
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Interesting so looks like the Enertia plus is going to make it for 2011 after all,
On the "pre order" page for the Enertia+ on the Brammo site: http://brammo.com/store/Enertia_Plus_True_Blood_Red/ (http://brammo.com/store/Enertia_Plus_True_Blood_Red/) you can read: "Available Mid 2011"...
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So this little Harp seal waddles into the bar and hops right up onto a bar stool. The bartender,not real surprised, says " What'll it be guy?"
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"Anything but a Canadian Club on the rocks."
I'll get my coat and leave now........
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This is great news, if it's true. It's fantastic that Brammo's working on new models & prototypes, but the best thing they can do in my view, is get products into buyer's hands. That'll get people even more excited about the models they've got in the pipeline. I'll be really curious to see how the revisions to the design and the new batteries work.
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Great news! Where are they being built?
SamM
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Mmmm, hopefully it is June or July....launching a new motorcycle in Sept or later is usually not very effective. Riding season for most is ending around then.
Of course the Plus might not be considered a "new" model as much as an update...and riding season is blurred when talking worldwide market. Sept is spring down under and in South America.
But traditionally here in the states you will sell a lot of bikes in the spring and early summer and very few in the fall, almost none in the winter...but maybe Brammo wants a slow build up?
Gavin
Either way I would love a Plus or SMS ASAP....2012 is soooooo far away....
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Hmmm, that Enertia Plus page now says "mid-2011." Subtle, but a change. (UPDATED - DUH... I didn't read this thread carefully enough... it was a poster who said June, not Brammo)
I'm not sure if these are being built at the Ashland facility or, perhaps one of the Flextronics facilities. If Flex is working on them, they would likely be at the Hungary location. We need to find a mole.
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Well if they are made in Hungary, well Europe and Asia will be getting them all likely.
I don't imagine Brammo will be shipping many from Hungary to the US...shipping will eat any money saved by cheaper labor. I assume the US bikes will be made local (Oregon or maybe Mexico). But assuming is a dangerous game. So who knows...well hopefully Brammo knows :)
As for Mid 2011....I think it has said that for some time now.
Gavin
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Mmmm, hopefully it is June or July....launching a new motorcycle in Sept or later is usually not very effective. Riding season for most is ending around then.
Of course the Plus might not be considered a "new" model as much as an update...and riding season is blurred when talking worldwide market. Sept is spring down under and in South America.
The Enertia became commonly available in November 2009 so I'm not sure Brammo is very concerned about the date.
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Available Mid 2011 is still up at the Brammo store....
so the question is...what does one consider Mid 2011? June sure. July...ok...Aug is pushing it. September, nope.
So it is the about the end of May now...which would also be Mid 2011 :)
Next month would be the "official" mid 2011. So I am really hoping for Enertia Plus news.
Two things:
The Little company spread thin...yep...and I love that they are racing, and winning. But if racing is delaying sales, well I wouldn't mind them racing a bit less :) (webman quote: but the best thing they can do in my view, is get products into buyer's hands. plus 1)
Two: Brammo: We will pass the pre-orders to dealers and they will fulfill those pre-orders first.
.... mmmm, I don't think we will have any dealers in New Mexico come summer....so this raises the question of: will I still be able to purchase directly from Brammo, or will I have to travel to the closest dealer? (Denver or Phoenix would probably have a dealer...about 7 hours either way...doable but not ideal.)
Gavin
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No dealers in Denver as far as I know. I did submit a few dealer's names to Brammo though so I wonder if that has gone anywhere.
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No dealers in Denver as far as I know. I did submit a few dealer's names to Brammo though so I wonder if that has gone anywhere.
just now on Twitter...
BrammoCraig Craig Bramscher
I'm at Denver International Airport (DEN) (8500 Peña Blvd, Denver) w/ 59 others http://4sq.com/jdnoNc (http://4sq.com/jdnoNc)
Probably just a layover stop, but could be setting something up with a dealership in Denver area??
Gavin
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Well June is almost upon us....maybe we will get some pre-holiday news...that would be sweet...
as for the Denver Airport tweet...looks like it was just a layover on the way to NYC for the conference where Brammo gave away an Enertia...
Gavin
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So June 1st is basically upon us (most forum members won't read this post til June)....
I am a Brammo junkie that is jonesing for some news.... Admitting it is the first step...gawd how I hope the second step is a Brammo in my garage SOON.
All the racing is fun...new tranny is fun...off road bikes coming someday is fun....
BUT I WANT REAL NEWS....on a bike I can have now, or at least nowish. I'll take a Plus or an SMS ( though I know the SMS won't be here till 2012).
I have always hated waiting....perhaps in my next life I will do better at that.
Gavin
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On the "pre order" page for the Enertia+ on the Brammo site: http://brammo.com/store/Enertia_Plus_True_Blood_Red/ (http://brammo.com/store/Enertia_Plus_True_Blood_Red/) you can read: "Available Mid 2011"...
Page has been changed to " Available Late 2011" ....
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dang.... :-\
Gavin
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On the "pre order" page for the Enertia+ on the Brammo site: http://brammo.com/store/Enertia_Plus_True_Blood_Red/ (http://brammo.com/store/Enertia_Plus_True_Blood_Red/) you can read: "Available Mid 2011"...
Page has been changed to " Available Late 2011" ....
The page for the Empulse (http://brammo.com/store/empulse10/) doesn't even say when it will be available. :P
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The page for the Empulse (http://brammo.com/store/empulse10/) doesn't even say when it will be available. :P
Maybe they got tired of hearing us obsess about it. :-\
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I'm sure it's tough all around...I so badly would love to know more...and Brammo would likely love to tell us more...but they have to be very cautious. I'm sure Brammo would LOVE to sell us all bikes tomorrow too, but these things take time. Hopefully not too much time.
Now I don't want them to be cautious...be BOLD Brammo...but being bold has dangers.
So they would like to tell us more, but can't yet. And still they likely get emails everyday asking for more info and timing of releases. Heck I've asked a couple of time myself :)
Gavin
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Heck I've asked a couple of time myself :)
A couple? ;D If I were you, I'd probably be even more obnoxious about it.
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Ha, I'd love to be MORE obnoxious, but then my wife would likely add, "More obnoxious? Is that humanly possible?"
Heck I would email Brammo everyday if I thought it would speed things up.
At the same time I could be riding a Brammo right now...the Enertia's are for sale. So I could put my money where my mouth is. The problem is I know about the Plus and so I am waiting for it.
Now if I was a bit wealthier or a bit more impulsive.......
As is I keep hoping the Plus goes on sale soon...or Brammo sends me a bike to test drive for them...either is fine by me :)
Hoping an email is coming soon...til then I just check here for news.
Gavin
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Have you done the math on buying an Enertia now, and then using the loyalty discount to buy the Enertia Plus? And then selling the Enertia?
I know, you'd have to figure in marital counseling and/or attorney fees, but still . . . .
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I've thought of it, but:
A) after waiting this long, well it seems silly to buy now and update a few months later...I should have done it when the Plus was announced, but I really thought the Plus was coming in spring 2011...also there is a chance I would keep the regular Enertia as it is more than fine for my commuting, and then every now and again regret not having the plus for longer rides...I want to avoid having any regrets.
B) wife would be perplexed by my doing that...at best... At worst? Shudder to think what at worst would be :)
C) Not a fan of the lime green and that is the only color left.
D) Hoping Brammo takes pity on me and gets me a Plus sooner rather than later...I am a low reservation number so I hope the "late 2012" date is for people putting in requests now vs people who put in requests last fall...
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E) hoping Brammo wants some middle aged dude to both commuter and off-road test a SMS for a few months till the Plus comes out....hey a man can dream :)
Gavin
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A) I bought my Enertia when I knew a newer model would eventually replace it, but it did meet my immediate commuting needs. Once a new model is available, sell your Enertia for the Enertia Plus.
B) Sell her on the idea.
c) Paint :)
D & E) It could happen, but why wait for a possible outcome?
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A) I bought my Enertia when I knew a newer model would eventually replace it, but it did meet my immediate commuting needs. Once a new model is available, sell your Enertia for the Enertia Plus.
B) Sell her on the idea.
c) Paint :)
D & E) It could happen, but why wait for a possible outcome?
A) I'm a computer guy...i know a newer model will come and be better...I just have to assess the cost vs benefit (in computers we say, if you need it-buy it. if you don't, wait, something better will be along very soon.)
Now I don't NEED anything...but I do WANT. I have 2 bicycles, 2 scooters and a car...many more vehicles than I need...and the car is my first car since May of 2005. So I have an abundance of rides.
On top of that, it is summer. I will be commuting on my road bike till early-mid September.
So waiting till September is easy...kinda :)
Now if I knew for sure the Plus wasn't coming till summer of 2012...or even late spring of 2012, well I could see buying. But if the Plus comes in Sept, well that is perfect. I will just be putting away the bike as my commuter ---i don't ride in the dark or cold on my bicycle--And my birthday is in Sept, so double win.
If the Plus comes in Oct, cool... Nov...good ....Dec...waaaaa, but so be it. Later than that and I probably should have bought the Enertia...but again I am waiting as I don't need a Brammo, just hella WANT a Brammo :)
B) Actually my wife is great...She knows I'm basically a knucklehead with my money (borderline communist in that I don't really believe in money, so spending all I have is no big issue) but she also says, "hey it's your money, you want to be a knucklehead, go right ahead." She might give me a bit of grief if I buy the Enertia and then trade for the Plus in 6-9 months, but mostly because I want the Plus but didn't wait for the Plus...she would see that as silly and maybe a bit weak.
C) Paint...gah...I see the mess already...Now that would upset my wife more than buying basically the same bike twice in one year :)
D and E)...well I am still hoping for D, the Plus coming late summer or early Fall. I see no real reason for the Plus not to come late summer, early fall...but who knows. Electric vehicles are notorious for being delayed or just outright vaporware. I don't see either as huge issues so far with Brammo, but...
Still the Plus is not a huge change from the standard Enertia. It "should" be a powercycle Brammo brings to market fairly easily...but who knows?
...E will not be happening, but it is a fun daydream.
I would love an email or private message that said, "Hey G, no bikes till 2012"....or "Hey G, your bike in Sept"...that would make my life a bit easier...but in truth my life is kinda fine now. I hate waiting because I hate waiting, no other reason :) Perhaps Brammo was put on this Earth to teach me Patience.
Lordy, I thought I had enough of that with my Aptera deposit for over 2 years....but perhaps the great Buddha believes I need more testing.
Gavin
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Lordy, I thought I had enough of that with my Aptera deposit for over 2 years....but perhaps the great Buddha believes I need more testing.
That makes at least two of us...
I "test drove" the Enertia when I was in So-Cal late last month...
It is "sufficient" and I'm struggling with the same decisions as you, buy now, upgrade to the Empulse when that's out next year...Since I have a rather low number, and I'm hoping a lot more people feel weak and get the plus I may actually get the Empulse when it's out "summer 2012". Or just suck it up and wait...
I'm prolly going to suck it up and wait, 'cause all my cash is tied up in a major remodel... Gives me time to droll, learn to be patient and save up for the top of the line Empulse :D
For now, this new pic of me on the enertia will have to do :D
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On the "pre order" page for the Enertia+ on the Brammo site: http://brammo.com/store/Enertia_Plus_True_Blood_Red/ (http://brammo.com/store/Enertia_Plus_True_Blood_Red/) you can read: "Available Mid 2011"...
Page has been changed to " Available Late 2011" ....
Another change on this page.... no more date.....
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Another change on this page.... no more date.....
Perhaps that's something driven by Peter, Brammo's new Web Media guy. He could be reviewing the website, fixing misinformation, and generally ensuring that it's up to date. Or it could be something that Brammo had changed a while ago, and nobody noticed until now!
Looking through the website again, I just noticed this section:
http://www.brammo.com/green/ (http://www.brammo.com/green/)
It's a cute little set of pages that tell you the benefits of going electric.
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Looking through the website again, I just noticed this section:
http://www.brammo.com/green/ (http://www.brammo.com/green/)
It's a cute little set of pages that tell you the benefits of going electric.
That's been there for a while.
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Yes. June 2012 not June 2011 ; )
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Either way I would love a Plus or SMS ASAP....2012 is soooooo far away....
Wow...it was kinda fun to re-read this thread...I guess 2012 isn't soooooo far away anymore...
Gavin
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I would love an email or private message that said, "Hey G, no bikes till 2012"....or "Hey G, your bike in Sept"...that would make my life a bit easier...but in truth my life is kinda fine now. I hate waiting because I hate waiting, no other reason :) Perhaps Brammo was put on this Earth to teach me Patience.
I probably need to re-read that sentence about 80 times a day....
Gavin