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Brammo Empulse Discussion => Brammo Empulse => Topic started by: Brammofan on July 25, 2014, 08:42:42 AM

Title: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Brammofan on July 25, 2014, 08:42:42 AM
Check out the new catalog online: http://www.brammo.com/empulse-accessories/flipbook/index.html (http://www.brammo.com/empulse-accessories/flipbook/index.html)
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: barboo on July 25, 2014, 09:05:01 AM
Very nice. Thank you for sharing!
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: frodus on July 25, 2014, 11:39:53 AM
Nice! Might have to get a screen now  wish they had pics of all of em
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Gavin on July 25, 2014, 01:10:01 PM
Ya! Yea! And Yahoo.

Off to see to catalog

G
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Gavin on July 25, 2014, 01:50:10 PM
So... Want everything in that catalog...except the side bags...

Of course I don't need anything other than side bags :)

I agree that I would love to see the short windshield...

I will get a windshield first...

Then maybe sliders (want them...but expensive...maybe I will suggest to the wife for birthday or Christmas)

Would love the ohlins and wheels...but unlikely

So, then new handlebar?

Maybe new dash...

Then----sidebags---just not a side age kinda guy, but I probably could use them...

Maybe I should just get a 2014 or 2015 Empulse...:)
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: skuzzle on July 25, 2014, 03:19:07 PM
Nice! Might have to get a screen now  wish they had pics of all of em

+1.  I would like to see what the small screen looks like from the front, or maybe post the dimensions.
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: 7racer on July 25, 2014, 09:18:51 PM
want the ohlins and dash!!!

and the clutch kit *cough*
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: kingcharles on July 26, 2014, 03:03:10 AM
Yes, more pics of the screens please!
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: BrammoBrian on July 26, 2014, 02:06:52 PM
Yes, more pics of the screens please!

Ok, ok... we got it!  We'll see what we can do next week to get you guys a better look at the two options!
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: protomech on July 26, 2014, 02:33:52 PM
So... Want everything in that catalog...except the side bags...

Now I'm imagining Gavin's Empulse with two windshields installed..
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Gavin on July 27, 2014, 12:04:53 AM
Ooooh, if 1 windshield gives a 10% increase in range, will 2 give me 20%?

I might get 3 or 4....

G
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Gavin on July 27, 2014, 10:28:44 PM
So... Want everything in that catalog...except the side bags...

Now I'm imagining Gavin's Empulse with two windshields installed..

The funny thing is...I actually might get 2...the tall one for winter and spring (windy here in spring) and the small one for summer and fall...

Of course I like the naked bike look, so maybe just the tall for winter and spring, and then naked in summer and fall...

or just a small for winter and spring? gah...too many decisions.

g
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: BrammoBrian on July 31, 2014, 07:07:53 PM
As promised, a quick shot of the shorty "fly screen".  The production version will be slightly tinted/smoked. 

(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10584668_1436548509960097_1953807720_n.jpg)
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Gavin on July 31, 2014, 10:57:06 PM
Thanks...think I'll get the tall...not sure the shorty would help much with winter riding...I'll probably go naked in summer and shield for other months...I assume it's easy on and off...

G
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: BrammoBrian on July 31, 2014, 11:11:27 PM
Yes - the shorty mostly helps in a tuck.  Get the tall if you really want to get the air off your chest or get some additional protection from the weather. 
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: MichaelJ on August 01, 2014, 02:14:56 AM
Get the tall if you really want to get the air off your chest or get some additional protection from the weather.

Thanks for publishing the accessories catalog and for the advice about which windscreen to choose, Brian!

Any measurements as to how much range the windscreen will give back?  Will the tall screen also reduce noise around the helmet?

--
Michael
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: BrammoBrian on August 01, 2014, 08:55:54 AM
Michael,

I don't have any official data on the range improvement provided by the windscreen, but I would say it will be pretty close to what others have experienced with their aftermarket windscreens - around 10% in ideal conditions. 

My experience with all windscreens on naked bikes is that they actually increase noise around the helmet, but it will depend on what helmet you wear and how tall you are as well.  If you "tuck in" behind the screen and you can get the air up over your helmet, then it will be quieter, but in the upright riding position, I find it to be louder. 
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Shinysideup on August 01, 2014, 12:55:03 PM
+1 on noise around the helmet unless tucked. It's called "buffeting" and has nothing to do with all you can eat. I have found that additional small wings bolted on to the top of the screen (spoilers) smooth out the air stream and really can reduce the buffeting to almost smooth, but nothing is as smooth as no screen at all.

You can see one such solution on this photo of my bike (recently taken by Brian in SF):

https://www.facebook.com/BrammoInc/photos/a.10152183437570443.1073741911.108820970442/10152183438090443/?type=1&permPage=1 (https://www.facebook.com/BrammoInc/photos/a.10152183437570443.1073741911.108820970442/10152183438090443/?type=1&permPage=1)
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Auslander on August 01, 2014, 01:53:40 PM
Depends on the windscreen and where it directs the air, if you get caught in the laminar layer (noise, and buffeting. My old 1150GS-Adv made by head bobble around!).  Some lift the air over your head, some let it hit you in the chest (still nice in summer) and don't affect things quite so much.  Aftermarket add-on I'm sure most riders are familiar with or have at least seen:
http://laminarlip.com/ (http://laminarlip.com/)
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: MichaelJ on August 02, 2014, 10:30:43 PM
[a windscreen will reduce drag by] around 10% in ideal conditions.  [...]  If you "tuck in" behind the screen and you can get the air up over your helmet, then it will be quieter, but in the upright riding position, I find it to be louder.

Oh, thanks for that insight.  I'll have to add earplugs to the list of things to consider. 

Having only experienced cruisers and scooters with a comfortable upright seating position protected behind a giant windscreen, I am pleasantly surprised by the comfort of the Empulse sport bike riding position and how leaning into the wind actually prevents back strain with the lack of a windscreen.  Or maybe I'm riding incorrectly?

The noise of the unprotected wind stream is a new concern with the Empulse.  I can easily listen to my music, podcasts, and my wife with my helmet radio earphones on the cruiser and scooter, but I can only hear my wife properly at full volume on the Empulse.  Custom earplugs that include speakers might be helpful.

Then again, adding a windscreen to save as much as 10% range would hopefully offset the additional drag of a pair of large Givi side cases...  :)
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Adan on August 04, 2014, 12:04:27 PM
but I can only hear my wife properly at full volume on the Empulse.  Custom earplugs that include speakers might be helpful.

So is your objective to be able to hear your wife, or to not be able to hear your wife?

I just installed the sidebags, and so far haven't noticed a significant range penalty.  There must be one, just from the addition of weight alone, but it doesn't seem to change the numbers anywhere as drastically as adding a windshield.

The bags are aerodynamic, so while they will add some wind resistance, it's nothing like the magnitude of adding a screen.  When you add a screen, you're putting a relatively aerodynamic surface in front of an extremely un-aerodynamic surface (i.e., your body leaning forward).

With a screen and bags, the Empulse is a commuting powerhouse!
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Shinysideup on August 04, 2014, 01:23:43 PM
+1 on "Commuting Powerhouse"!

I too have noticed the bags do little to change the range. In thinking about that today on my commute, it occurred to me that my knees and legs, which present a fairly aerodynamic surface (with the knee being the tip of a horizontal "V" shape) are positioned just in front of most of the bag surface, so the bags, like a passenger are more or less in the slipstream already.

Disclaimer: Results of my butt wind tunnel are no more accurate than results of my butt dyno. ;)
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Adan on August 04, 2014, 02:49:23 PM
+1 on "Commuting Powerhouse"!

Sometimes I wish I had two jobs, so I could commute-ride four times a day.  Twice is just too easy.
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: Shinysideup on August 04, 2014, 10:24:59 PM
Sometimes I wish I had two jobs, so I could commute-ride four times a day.  Twice is just too easy.

Or maybe a job like mine where I ride to work, ride all day long in San Francisco, and then home at night. Today, I put 63 miles on the Empulse and only 24 were strictly commute.

Of course, the joy on rainy, cold days... not so much.
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: flar on August 06, 2014, 02:36:19 PM
I don't need protection from the wind - I'm actually enjoying the wind after riding my RT with the pocket of dead air around me.

What I'd like is longer range.  Any anecdotal evidence on the impact of a wind-screen on range? (Never mind - I first wrote this before I noticed the second page of posts).

I had some buffeting on my RT with the stock wind screen.  Solved by buying a new screen from calsci.com - perfect laminar flow now.  I contacted them about doing a screen for the Empulse, but it is too low volume for them to consider and they don't make a generic screen.  :(
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: MichaelJ on August 12, 2014, 04:39:07 AM
but I can only hear my wife properly at full volume on the Empulse.  Custom earplugs that include speakers might be helpful.

So is your objective to be able to hear your wife, or to not be able to hear your wife?

To hear her, of course!  :)

We each ride our own bike and communicate via helmet radio (Scala Rider G4).  When we're not talking, we're listening to our own music over Bluetooth.  I'm sad that the unprotected buffeting prevents me from effectively listening to music or podcasts during my commute.


I just installed the sidebags, and so far haven't noticed a significant range penalty.

That's welcome news!  I was very worried about that.  I'll have to go ahead and order them now.  I'm coming up on my 600 mi maintenance appointment, so getting those bags installed at the same time will be convenient.


When you add a screen, you're putting a relatively aerodynamic surface in front of an extremely un-aerodynamic surface (i.e., your body leaning forward).

It makes sense when you put it that way, but when I look at the bulky rectangular saddlebags or ammunition boxes I see on sport-touring bikes, I can't help thinking that they're terrible for aerodynamics.

I love this forum.  Thank you for your feedback!

--
Michael
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: flar on August 12, 2014, 01:09:28 PM
My Schuberth is so quiet in the clean air stream of the naked Empulse that I regularly attend conference calls from it while riding on the highway and nobody on the other end suspects anything (until I wander into the conference room in full gear). And these are people who complain when someone is typing next to their phone...
Title: Re: New Brammo Empulse Accessories Catalog
Post by: littlefreak3000 on August 29, 2014, 10:14:39 AM
When and where can I order the windscreen from?