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Victory Empulse / Free L2 EVSE
« on: April 24, 2017, 07:38:26 AM »
If you want to increase your charging speed by moving to a 240 circuit, you can modify the existing EVSE provided with the Victory Empulse.  This is a clipper creek unit with the same "guts" as shown in the attached you-tube video.  The only difference is the EVSE for the Empulse is put together with 4 Phillips screws, not 6 tamper proof Torx as shown in the video.  The only cost is the plug and a short piece of wire.  Be aware if you make this mod, you need to have a 4 wire (two hots, neutral and ground) circuit.  The 120 (hot-neutral) connection is required to provide the 120 volt control voltage.

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Victory Empulse / Hella (Powerlet) receptacle
« on: April 19, 2017, 05:17:47 PM »
Some have wondered where to get 12 volt power from the Bike.  In the case of the Victory Empulse (as I had mentioned before) there is a "Hella" plug located under the "tank" cover.  It is more commonly referred to as a Powerlet receptacle and is used extensively on BMW motorcycles.  It's location is inconvenient to get to and almost impossible to use.  The receptacle has a spring loaded cover on it to keep out dirt when not in use.  The problem is the cover cannot be opened with the tank cover in place.  In addition the Powerlet plug makes the fit problem even worse.  If you are going to use this plug for power, you need to remove the receptacle from it's mounting, remove the spring loaded cover, and then replace the receptacle.  You can then use a 90 degree angle Powerlet plug to make your connection.  You can buy the plug on the internet in various places as just a plug or with some sort of wiring attached.  I used the plug with an 18" wire terminating with a SAE two pole connector.  I let it hang out in the slot where the clutch cable goes under the frame on the left side.

The circuit is protected by a 10 amp fuse located in the fuse box.  The power supply for 12 volts is a DC-DC converter located in front of the rear tire just above the transmission.  It is made by Sevcon (the same people that make the motor controller).  It is rated at 300 watts, 12 VDC and 25 amps.  The bike itself uses about 1/2 of the converter output for running lighting and the cooling water pump.  If you need more than the approx. 10 amps remaining, Sevcon makes a 500 watt model of the converter that is a bolt in plug and play fit that will give you a lot more power--over 40 amps.  They also build the converter in 12, 13.5 and 14 volt output.  I would have thought Brammo would have provided the Empulse with the 13.5 volt converter as that replicates the normal battery voltage of motor vehicles when the alternator is operating.  That little 1.5 volts is really noticeable with incandescent lights like the headlight.  If I needed the power it would be the 500 watt 13.5 volt unit.  BTW--if you could find a used converter, they can be run in parallel for additional power.

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Brammo Empulse / Clutch Switch
« on: April 09, 2017, 05:40:03 PM »
I am a new Victory Empulse owner and have a question that maybe some of you that have the Brammo Empulse can answer.  There is a clutch switch that activates when you pull in the clutch lever.  It is a normally open switch mounted to the clutch lever pivot bolt.  There are two wires attached that go down behind the headlight switch and terminate with two male bullet connectors.  The problem is the wires on the Victory aren't connected to anything.  Looking at the bikes wiring diagram, it shows that one wire from the switch should be connected to chassis ground.  The other wire should go to connector P85 terminal #9 on the motor controller,  The input is listed as "digital input 6".

My question is if this switch is used on the Brammo and if it is, what does it do?  There are no extra wires in the Victory harness going from the headlight area to the motor controller.  Could this be to limit motor output (torque, RPM, etc.) with the clutch pulled in?  I could just ground terminal #9 and see what happens unless the current firmware doesn't enable digital input 6.  Everything appears to be working normally so just a question as I am trying to learn everything I can about the bike---Thanks  :) !

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Victory Empulse / Clutch Switch and Hella Plug
« on: April 07, 2017, 09:36:06 PM »
Just fooling around with the bike and found a couple of things.

Under the top cover on the left side of the bike there is a "Hella plug".  It is wired for 12 volts and looks liked it is fused for 10 amps.  If you don't what it is, BMW and some others use them for tapping power in their vehicles instead of a cigarette lighter style plug.  You can buy the mating  connector at various places on the internet.  Why the plug is located where it is, why it exists and why there is no mention of it in the owners manual beats me.

I Also found a connector that looks like it could be "jumped" with a piece of wire.  It's marked "Low Battery Override" and goes to the BMS controller.  No mention of what it is for but if you completely kill your battery I think jumping this connector would give you power long enough to wake up the electronics when connected to a charging source so the bike can begin to charge.  Just a guess so try it at your own risk. 

One other question---under the clutch lever is a switch.  Two wires lead out of the switch and disappear behind the headlight.  Problem is (on my bike) the wires aren't connected to anything.  There are just two male bullet connectors and that's it.  According to my service manual there should be two orange wires connected to the bullet connectors.  One goes to chassis ground and the other to a digital input #6 in the motor controller.  Must have a purpose or possibly Victory eliminated the function and just left the switch.  If it was connected, the switch would ground digital input #6---possibly to limit RPM, torque or such with the clutch pulled in.  On my bike, the wire just came out from behind the headlight with no effort.  If anyone out there wants to look at their Victory and see where that wire goes (if anywhere) I would like to know---thanks.

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Victory Empulse / Victory Service Manual
« on: April 07, 2017, 06:52:03 AM »
I like to work on my own stuff and my Victory Empulse is no different than anything else I own.  Until I got the Victory service manual PN 9926260 R01 I had been using the Brammo manual (courtesy of the forum Wiki---thanks).  This manual is a lot more comprehensive and deals with just about everything you need to know to service the bike.  It shows in detail removal and installation of all major components along with how to rebuild things like the transmission and forks.  Also included are a complete set of wiring diagrams and information about dealer programming of the various drive, control and charging systems.

As the manual was published early on (November 2015) there are a couple of glaring errors.  Some issues in the specs for example or a complete section (in the final drive) on working on the motor.  Unfortunately, the motor shown is the older IET motor, not the parker GVM which is used in our bikes.

Even if you don't work on your bike yourself, the manual is nice to have as Victory dealers dry up and you need to take your bike to another Polaris branded dealer or an independent shop it would be a benefit to have a set of "instructions" to help their mechanics service your bike.  $169 a little pricey but worth in IMO  :) .   

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Victory Empulse / Battery Charging Screens
« on: April 02, 2017, 12:43:46 PM »
I found a couple of other screens on the display you can access during charging by holding down the "mode" and "trip" button together.

The first screen shows 3 lines of information along with the normal battery %, time, odometer, etc.  The first line is the highest and lowest cell voltage readout along with which cell pair number it is in the pack.  The second line reads out the pack voltage, charging current and state of charge in %.  The third line marked "Bal" followed by 14 dots shows the operation of the balancers.  If the battery is balanced just the dots are shown.  If the battery is actively balancing there will be a letter "A" shown.  When I first got the bike, there were a lot of "A"'s turned on during the first full charge, now not so many.

If you hold the trip button in for a few seconds, you will toggle to a second screen.  The first line of this screen reads the battery voltage and current just like in the prior screen.  The next line has three numbers proceeded by Tp, Ts, and Js.  These numbers change during the charging session but I have know idea what they mean.  The final line reads Err: and then (in my case) 00 00 00 followed by S:2.  Again know idea but could be a error log of some sort.  Pushing the trip button will toggle you back to the first screen so there are only two total.

Kind of neat to find this sort of stuff.  Fun to look at but not useful for most people but good to know if you want a little more detail about your battery health.  BTW--the amount of voltage change between the highest and lowest cell can really affect the range of the bike.  Balancing only occurs during the final segment of the charge cycle when the charge current is low.  That's why it is important to fully charge the bike once in a while so the balancers can do their job.

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Victory Empulse / Clutch operation
« on: April 02, 2017, 12:16:56 PM »
I have a new TT and have a question about clutch operation.  I noticed the transmission oil was almost black and with 30 miles on it, I  changed it.  I found a lot of fine metal on the drain plug.  I also realized that the clutch wasn't actually disengaging.  You could drive the bike at moderate power levels with the clutch lever pulled in.  Only at high power would the clutch disengage.  Once it did you could reduce the power, let the motor catch up and then drive again---still with the clutch lever pulled in.

Here's my question---does the normally operating bike (yours) allow you to pull the clutch in and open the "throttle" in gear and have the bike remain stationary?  Mine will move off unless you hold the brake.  This means that if and when you shift the bike, you might as well not use the clutch as it isn't disengaging anyway.

I checked the clutch hydraulic system and bled it.  No air found and no change in operation.  I did find an adjustment on the clutch lever to control how far the lever would move the clutch cylinder piston.  The adjustment screw had been sealed with epoxy from the factory.  After removing the epoxy and screwing in the screw all the way I have regained clutch disengagement when the bike is warm---it is still locked up when cold.  Any reply would be helpful before I go further or see the dealer.  That screw adjustment must be critical for some reason or the screw wouldn't have been "sealed".

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Victory Empulse / First ride and starting Mods.
« on: March 31, 2017, 11:57:14 PM »
Well, I've owned an Empluse TT for a Month and a half but never saw it until today.  I finally had a friend bring it down from the dealer in Michigan.  I'm pretty pleased with it but only have had time to put 10 miles on today.  While I was waiting for the bike to arrive, I loaded up on parts for it.  I had a Competition Werkes fender eliminator kit on the shelf and installed it this afternoon.  Real easy, no harnesses to cut.  I just needed to buy four bullet connectors at the auto parts store to terminate the ends of the turn signals that were provided in the kit.  I also replaced the license plate lamp with LED while the tail light was sitting there.  I think its a real improvement over the original bracket.  I also bought the upgraded Marzocchi on E-bay so they are going on along with frame sliders and the short Victory windshield.  I think I hit the jackpot today on E-bay as I scored a complete, new in the box Brammo carbon fiber kit which includes the front and rear fenders, upper cover, headlight housing and tail light cover (which is useless with the relocated tail light.  Total price was $200 plus $40 shipping! 

Two concerns.  First, if you own one of these you might want to check the cooling hose that runs from the motor up to the radiator on the left side of the bike.  You can see it coming out of the motor.  Just follow it toward the front and look where it passes behind the metal shield that forms the radiator and motor controller support.  On my bike, a sharp edge on the shield had already started to cut into the hose.  I took the lower cowl off, removed the shield, blended the sharp edge with a Dremel tool and touched up the paint.  When I put the fender eliminator kit on, there was a piece of split wire loom that wasn't needed any longer and the diameter and length was just right to put over the hose to protect it from further abrasion.  It's worth a look.

The other concern is the transmission.  I know there is a lot of backlash---but I was surprised at just how much there is along with noise from the transmission.  I checked the oil level and the oil that came out of the level plug was almost black.  I am going to change it tomorrow and keep an eye on it.  It looks like clutch material ( I didn't see any shiny bits).  The bike had about 15 miles on it when I got it so I am sure someone "demo" rode it--so much for the 600 mile break-in.

Other a couple of loose fasteners and the above two items, the bike is going to be fun to fool around with.  BTW--I would also be interested to know how many of these were made by Polaris.  Vin #'s would shed some light on it.  My bike was built in September, 2015 and the last three numbers on the VIN are 094.  The other bike the dealer had was in the 70's so maybe some other owners could chime in and start to fill in some blanks. 

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Welcome Forum / Another new member
« on: March 29, 2017, 01:37:55 PM »
I just registered for the forum today but have been lurking here and other Brammo forums for several years.  I have been interested in Alternative fuel vehicles for a number of years and have been waiting to pull the trigger on an electric motorcycle for quite awhile.  My vehicles over the years have run the gambit of hybrid, BEV and natural gas power.  The oldest pure BEV was a Grumman "Kurbwatt" postal van.  Then I purchased two S-10E pickups (couldn't get an EV-1).  One was lead-acid and the other NiMh.  The first really complete electric I owned until I sold them and got a 2002 RAV4-EV.  That was a landmark vehicle--still one of the best I had.  Sold it and replaced it with a Nissan LEAF--another (minor) step forward except the RAV4 with NiMH batteries bested the LEAF with Li-Ion for range.  Both were leases and when they ended I leased a Mitsubishi I-MiEV for no money down and $99 a month payment.  Slightly lower range than the LEAF but a good solid almost "free" car.  I finally took the plunge and bought a new 2014 Tesla Model S sedan.  Single motor S85, pre-autopilot.  Great car, great range but not practical for me--a little large and pretentious for my tastes so although I enjoyed it, I traded it in (even up) for a new 2017 Volt and a new 2015 Impala CNG.

As far as motorcycles, the only electric I owned was a Vectrix scooter which I drove until the charger failed and I couldn't repair it.  It's NiMh batteries now reside in my home backup power system.  I followed the wind-down at Brammo and watched the Polaris purchase hoping that new money coming in might lead to some neat new products from Polaris/Victory.  I never imagined that Victory would close it's doors (or was operating on such thin margins) that Euro 4 specs and ABS brake requirements would put the final nail in the coffin for the company ---- and the Empulse.  So about a month ago, I bought a new Empulse TT from a dealer at an excellent price.  A friend of mine is picking it up in Michigan as I write this and trailering it to it's new home in central Florida.  In the meantime I have a small pile of parts (forks, flyscreen, fender eliminator, frame protector and service manual) sitting here waiting for the bikes arrival. 

Kind of a long intro, but the information on this forum has really helped me make the purchase decision and also decisions about modifications that I might want to do in the future.  I hope I can help in some small way to repay the efforts of all the members that came before me in getting some of the mysteries of the Empulse unraveled. 

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