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Brammo Enertia Discussion => Brammo Enertia Plus => Topic started by: CBke on January 27, 2012, 05:53:16 PM

Title: Enertia+ available in May in Europe ?
Post by: CBke on January 27, 2012, 05:53:16 PM

Found on: http://www.n-tv.de/auto/Brammo-heizt-Deutschland-ein-article5053026.html (http://www.n-tv.de/auto/Brammo-heizt-Deutschland-ein-article5053026.html)

Brammo kündigte auch eine "Plus"-Version für Berufspendler mit doppelter Akku-Kapazität an, die rund 150 Kilometer weit kommen soll, aber mit 9346 Euro auch deutlich teurer ist. Sie kommt voraussichtlich im Mai auf den deutschen Markt. Vom Europasitz im bayerischen Burgkirchen aus will das Unternehmen aus dem US-Staat Oregon zunächst in Deutschland, Österreich und der Schweiz ein europäisches Händlernetz aufbauen.

Translated for you guys with Google:

Brammo also announced a "Plus" version for commuters with double battery capacity, which will address some 150 miles away, but 9346 € is also much more expensive. They will be available in May on the German market. From the European headquarters in the Bavarian town of churches from the company from the U.S. state of Oregon wants to build first in Germany, Austria and Switzerland, a worldwide dealer network.

So the European headquarters are in Burgkirchen Germany ?
Found on Brammo.com

Hans Eder
kom enterprise GmbH BrammoParx Services
Schmidtner 13, 84508
Burgkirchen, Germany

Title: Re: Enertia+ available in May in Europe ?
Post by: protomech on January 27, 2012, 06:34:07 PM

150 km is approximately 90 miles, fwiw.

9300 euros is quite expensive. I wonder how much of that is VAT.

Title: Re: Enertia+ available in May in Europe ?
Post by: CBke on January 27, 2012, 07:21:35 PM

150 km is indeed 90 miles, should checked that one....

Quote from: protomech on January 27, 2012, 06:34:07 PM

9300 euros is quite expensive. I wonder how much of that is VAT.

If I'm not mistaken the "Mehrwertsteuer" (German VAT) is 19%.

Title: Re: Enertia+ available in May in Europe ?
Post by: Mr.Rodgers on January 27, 2012, 11:35:05 PM

Promo, maybe you can help me out with this (maybe you already have and I have just forgotten).  With my simple math (likely way too simple in this case), if the E+ will make it 90 miles with a 6kWh pack, then the Empulse 10.0 with a 10kWh pack should get to 150 miles/charge?

 I'm just going to make the assumption that I'm wrong and the huge difference in motor power plays a big factor in efficiency and range.  On the off chance that I'm correct, 150 miles would be pretty nice!

Title: Re: Enertia+ available in May in Europe ?
Post by: protomech on January 28, 2012, 03:40:58 AM

If you rode for 6 hours on an oval track at 25 mph, you could probably get 150 miles from an Empulse 10.

I wouldn't recommend doing so, of course. : )

Title: Re: Enertia+ available in May in Europe ?
Post by: EmpulseRider on January 28, 2012, 02:17:44 PM

I think the difference in stated ranges could very well be attributed to the difference in weight, and even more so, motor power output. The Enertia+ weighs only 327lbs while the Empulse 10.0 is 420lbs. I bet my skinny ass (165lbs) could get 120 miles out of the Empulse driving with traffic, non-highway, commuting.

Title: Re: Enertia+ available in May in Europe ?
Post by: Mr.Rodgers on January 28, 2012, 06:37:34 PM

Yeah, I figured the weight and power of the Empulse would kill my idea.

My 6'4" 220lb frame doesn't really help my case, either.

One day...