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General => Brammo News And Views => Topic started by: Brammofan on December 12, 2014, 10:15:58 AM

Title: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: Brammofan on December 12, 2014, 10:15:58 AM
Decent article that quotes Adrian Stewart of Brammo:

http://insideevs.com/brammo-speaks-rumors-closing-doors-mass-layoffs/ (http://insideevs.com/brammo-speaks-rumors-closing-doors-mass-layoffs/)
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: roma258 on December 12, 2014, 10:41:38 AM
Decent article that quotes Adrian Stewart of Brammo:

http://insideevs.com/brammo-speaks-rumors-closing-doors-mass-layoffs/ (http://insideevs.com/brammo-speaks-rumors-closing-doors-mass-layoffs/)
Fascinating article thanks. Definitely quells some of my fears about Brammo being around for the foreseeable future. Though it does seem like they have a bit of corporate ADD, maybe all those juicy consulting contracts keep the whole thing viable, while they sell the bikes as loss-leaders. This tidbit was particularly fascinating:
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In 2014 more than 75% of our sales came from European dealerships, which is great news for US exports.
Had no idea their European presence was that strong. Definitely a good sign, since in the land of 8 euro per gallon petrol, electric bikes become a much more viable option.
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: roma258 on December 12, 2014, 02:20:20 PM
So can we start speculating on the 2015 Brammo Empulse yet? They must've seen the Zero SR now has decent components, so gotta swing back. And since everyone knows about the discount prices, can't come back with same old Empulse R and expect to sell for $19k. So I'm hoping for some Empulse RR components, including the motor. Keep leveraging that racing experience. And a dirt bike/ds would be really, really smart, imo.
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: littlefreak3000 on December 12, 2014, 03:36:53 PM
I rather more range then speed/power. Having just bought a 2013 R, I can wait to see what the 2015 holds. Since I'm sure I'll be envious of it.
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: 00049 (AKA SopFu) on December 12, 2014, 06:47:40 PM
I bet they ditch the transmission, up the power (maybe 5kw), and add ABS. Styling stays similar to the MY 13/14.
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: littlefreak3000 on December 12, 2014, 08:43:57 PM
Dropping the transmission is kind of admitting defeat. Its the one thing that sets it apart.
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: roma258 on December 13, 2014, 10:56:03 AM
I rather more range then speed/power. Having just bought a 2013 R, I can wait to see what the 2015 holds. Since I'm sure I'll be envious of it.
Wouldn't adding more range require a complete, frame-up redesign? There's nowhere to stick more batteries is there? But yeah, moar range, and faster charging are two of the holy grail of e-bike as far as I can see.
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: csspring on December 13, 2014, 11:30:31 AM
I rather more range then speed/power. Having just bought a 2013 R, I can wait to see what the 2015 holds. Since I'm sure I'll be envious of it.

you do have that.... just go slower  :D
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: Gavin on December 13, 2014, 02:35:25 PM
Dropping the shifty only makes sense if Brammo goes high voltage...no high voltage EV bikes have a shifty (not even Brammo's race bikes) as the high voltage makes a shifty irrelevant


Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: dbsuperbiker on December 13, 2014, 07:18:43 PM
the trans is a leg up on the other ebikes...their engineers wish they had a trans like the Empulse.

I get an easy 60 miles per charge when riding with 'enthusiasm'. Even at full throttle, closed course racing speeds we get 30 miles with 30% left at race's end.
It will be nice when it's better, but still quite useable in today's trim.
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: littlefreak3000 on December 13, 2014, 07:37:53 PM
That's exactly why I want more range. So I can go faster for longer.
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: skuzzle on December 14, 2014, 02:07:11 AM
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In 2014 more than 75% of our sales came from European dealerships, which is great news for US exports.
Had no idea their European presence was that strong. Definitely a good sign, since in the land of 8 euro per gallon petrol, electric bikes become a much more viable option.
There was a huge delay between when the Empulse was available in Europe versus the U.S.  I think that is the reason the Europe sales are higher. 
Title: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: benswing on December 14, 2014, 08:48:36 AM
Regarding the gears, the Empulse is the only EV that has one.  I think it would make sense for them to drop it.  That just means they would need a different motor.


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Title: Re: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: kingcharles on December 14, 2014, 10:51:54 AM
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In 2014 more than 75% of our sales came from European dealerships, which is great news for US exports.
Had no idea their European presence was that strong. Definitely a good sign, since in the land of 8 euro per gallon petrol, electric bikes become a much more viable option.
There was a huge delay between when the Empulse was available in Europe versus the U.S.  I think that is the reason the Europe sales are higher.
I think also next year sales will be strong in the EU. If they keep the prices reasonable...

A lot more people in the EU commute on a motorcycle.
The gas, petrol ⛽ whatever you call it prices are a lot higher in EU
The charging infrastructure is pretty good in most of the relevant places.
Europeans like high quality builds and components.
Europeans like acceleration :D
Cities are closer together so range is less of an issue.

The Empulse just fits very well here, but maybe I am a bit biased ;D
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: littlefreak3000 on December 15, 2014, 01:11:04 PM
You know I bet they could fit more batteries in there if they adjusted the arrangement. The bike is very thin with a little more width I bet they could get 33% more in there. Or there is also the chance of a higher density battery.
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: littlefreak3000 on December 17, 2014, 10:17:44 AM
I'd also like to see an integrated tail light.
Title: Re: New article on Brammo rumors, what's ahead
Post by: MichaelJ on December 21, 2014, 04:18:39 AM
A new Brammo with a high voltage battery pack would be handy for compatibility with DC Fast Chargers (e.g. CHAdeMO).  Between increasing range and charging faster, both would be nice, but charging faster would be more useful for touring in areas where DCFCs are common.  Maybe Brammo will stay ahead of Zero in terms of out of the box charging speed.  As much as I love hearing about Terry Hershner breaking records equipping his Zero with an aerodynamic shell and hundreds of pounds of extra batteries and chargers, walking up to a stock Brammo with a J1772 plug is much more practical.