lito sora electric naked bike prototype

[webman]

All:

I thought this was pretty cool, although I think Brammo's move of just detailing the battery boxes and exposing them is a better-looking strategy:

http://www.gizmag.com/lito-sora-electric-motorcycle/18455/?utm_source=Gizmag+Subscribers&utm_campaign=b72c820968-UA-2235360-4&utm_medium=email

Some nice touches, and interesting ideas, although I think they're drinking the Confederate Hellcat kool-aid...

[skuzzle]

I find it interesting that the Lito claims a 185 miles range.  The Empulse 10, with a 10kw capacity claims 100 mile range, or 10 miles per KW.  The Lito would have to get 15.4 miles per KW with its 12 KW capacity.

[FreepZ]

I think that the 15.4 miles per KW is possible because of the CVT, which can keep the electric motor running at optimal speeds. The regenerative breaking system may help a bit too. Take a look at Leto's website for more info.

On the other hand, claims on range are a little bit of a guess until we start to see real people use the bikes for a while.

[protomech]

Here's an efficiency graph for the PMS150, which is similar to the motor used in the Empulse (PMS156 I think?) is the motor used in the Enertia RR. Note that efficiency is largely invariant across the RPM range. A CVT will probably hurt efficiency slightly, as you will lose a little power vs direct drive -- and the bike weighs a little more. 20 lbs?

Power, of course, can be helped by a CVT at both low (torque-limited) and high rpms (power/rpm limited). But again, you have to balance that against the weight increase.. I'd rather add batteries (more power / range) than a CVT.

[WanderLust]

That looks SICK!!!
But I'm going to stick to my Empulse for now...
The GPS and software to optimize power to get you to your location is a great idea.
And I agree I love the exposed Battery on the Empulse.

[thespecialonejr]

Looks like Batman's bike.

I think they're dreaming up those numbers...or drinking the kool-aid...

Jr

[Brammofan]

My only comment: they got the touch pad wrong.  It should be on the left side of the "tank" near the hand that has absolutely nothing to do.  Otherwise, you have to either reach across, or use your right hand and have no braking/throttle.

[Gavin]

i will mildly disagree....the touchpad should be set at start up of a ride or when stopping for a charge...but really one shouldn't be riding AND playing with the touchscreen. so putting it by your throttle hand is a good idea.


yes that makes me old and all that, but really we on 2 wheels take our lives in our hands every ride...we don't need to be adding in the ability of "setting new directions on the touchpad while going 75 mph down the road" to make it even more likely to add "tragic early demise" to ones bio....

Gavin

[WanderLust]

i will mildly disagree....the touchpad should be set at start up of a ride or when stopping for a charge...but really one shouldn't be riding AND playing with the touchscreen. so putting it by your throttle hand is a good idea.


yes that makes me old and all that, but really we on 2 wheels take our lives in our hands every ride...we don't need to be adding in the ability of "setting new directions on the touchpad while going 75 mph down the road" to make it even more likely to add "tragic early demise" to ones bio....

Gavin

I agree, we have enough distracted drivers as it is.
Don't need distracted bikers going "up to 125mph" keying in destinations... its even more dangerous on a bike!!!
That doesn't really make you old Gavin, just your age does :-P