Author Topic: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses  (Read 1260 times)

Richard230

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 2519
    • View Profile
Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« on: January 17, 2019, 06:52:47 PM »
I don't quite know what to think of this new Lightning model.  It is hard for me to wrap my head around the performance and the advertised price, unless there is some slight-of-hand going on.
About the same performance with half the price of the Energica bikes. How does that "pencil out"?:   ???   http://lightningmotorcycle.com/lightning-strikes-twice/
current bikes: 2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500 Classic, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2007 BMW R1200R, 2005 Triumph T-100 Bonneville, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

HadesOmega

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 908
  • #139
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2019, 07:34:04 PM »
Those are some lofty goals hopefully they can achieve.  I hope the range they mention is at freeway speed because the LS-218 was suppose to be freeway speed.

Watch out HD a new player has risen.

https://electrek.co/2019/01/17/lightning-electric-motorcycle-strike/
2016 Victory Empulse TT - #139

Richard230

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 2519
    • View Profile
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2019, 08:31:33 PM »
Here is Lightning's first attempt at a budget motorcycle.  I can't recall what the price was at the time, but I think it was more that their latest model and had only a fraction of the range and performance.  I don't think they sold more than one or two.  ???
current bikes: 2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500 Classic, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2007 BMW R1200R, 2005 Triumph T-100 Bonneville, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

HadesOmega

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 908
  • #139
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2019, 09:16:50 PM »
Cool look legit :)
2016 Victory Empulse TT - #139

Richard230

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 2519
    • View Profile
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2019, 10:07:04 AM »
I forgot to add that the photo of that red bike was taken five years ago. Lightning seems to be good at designing motorcycles, but not so good when it come to actually manufacturing and selling them.  Maybe it will be different this time?   ???
current bikes: 2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500 Classic, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2007 BMW R1200R, 2005 Triumph T-100 Bonneville, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

Brammofan

  • Administrator
  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 3257
  • Following the momentum of Enertia
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2019, 11:09:32 AM »
I'll add my name to the "skeptical" column. I'd love for them to succeed and disrupt and all that, but, even besides the bike and the incredible (as in, not credible) price point, you need a dealer network, mechanics trained to fix the bikes, and maybe a proven track record of sales, support, and users.  You know, like Zero has and like Brammo might have had. 
The Brammoforum Wiki is still active: http://www.brammoforum.com/wiki

Richard230

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 2519
    • View Profile
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2019, 05:07:56 PM »
Here is an interesting article reviewing the prototype of the Strike:
https://www.cyclenews.com/2019/03/article/lightning-strike-prototype-review/
current bikes: 2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500 Classic, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2007 BMW R1200R, 2005 Triumph T-100 Bonneville, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

Drivingthefuture

  • Enertia Master
  • ***
  • Posts: 71
    • View Profile
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2019, 10:39:23 PM »
Wow thank you! What an interesting read, will all the details they've spilled in this article I'm not sure what they'll have left to unveil Thursday, but the look of the thing. Production begins in June? That's a good thing... Hope it's really possible. But shipping things from China takes a lot of time, esp nowadays. I'd be happy with 120 miles range for 13k...

Richard230

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 2519
    • View Profile
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2019, 04:53:15 PM »
The Lightning Strike was introduced today.  It is kind of hard for me to believe that Lightning can sell this bike with the chassis, battery and drive train components at the advertised prices and still make a profit.  ??? Here is a link to the Strike's launch article published today by electrek:  https://electrek.co/2019/03/28/lightning-strike-electric-motorcycle-launch/
current bikes: 2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500 Classic, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2007 BMW R1200R, 2005 Triumph T-100 Bonneville, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

HadesOmega

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 908
  • #139
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2019, 05:17:13 PM »
Lightning Strike porn! Straight from their webby site!  Would definitely like to take one for a spin.  I've never gotten to ride the LS-218.  I wonder how they are going to sell it?  The Tesla way?  Hard to tell is that a belt drive?
http://lightningmotorcycle.com/strike_launch/?fbclid=IwAR0dqPREeUvtG3KXk3nlFoiIexNrenKD4QU3MZkgHxibozqDPh8GRVGHkFU





2016 Victory Empulse TT - #139

frodus

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 509
    • View Profile
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2019, 01:10:42 PM »
20lbs to change from 3.3kw to 6.6kw charger AND add 5kWh?

damn.

Richard230

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 2519
    • View Profile
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2019, 06:11:09 PM »
20lbs to change from 3.3kw to 6.6kw charger AND add 5kWh?

damn.

Those hydrogen-powered batteries are really light.   ::)
current bikes: 2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500 Classic, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2007 BMW R1200R, 2005 Triumph T-100 Bonneville, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

Richard230

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 2519
    • View Profile
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2019, 08:33:18 AM »
We now know that at least two Lightning Strikes exist.  One blue one and one black one.  Both showed up at the Half Moon Bay Dream Machines show that was held this Sunday - and which I did not attend as I don't like crowds and don't like paying $25 to get into the show, which was held at a cold, windy, and overcast barely-used county airport. https://electricmotorcycles.news/news/
current bikes: 2018 16.6 kWh Zero S, 2011 Royal Enfield Bullet 500 Classic, 2009 BMW F650GS, 2007 BMW R1200R, 2005 Triumph T-100 Bonneville, 2002 Yamaha FZ1 and a 1978 Honda Kick 'N Go Senior.

HadesOmega

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 908
  • #139
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2019, 03:33:37 AM »
Butch from BARF got to ride one he let me ride his Alta one time. 

https://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10309034&postcount=152
2016 Victory Empulse TT - #139

HadesOmega

  • Brammovangelist
  • *****
  • Posts: 908
  • #139
    • View Profile
    • Email
Re: Lightning returns with a bike for the masses
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2019, 03:01:00 PM »
I'll just put these pictures here

Lightning Strike











2016 Victory Empulse TT - #139