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San Fran peeps....
« on: October 24, 2012, 05:44:43 PM »


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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2012, 07:10:06 PM »
Its on like donkey kong! I wonder if its show and tell or they are offering demos. Very exciting!

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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2012, 07:20:58 PM »
Don't know...but I bet locals can call Scuderia and find out...

I bet they (James) heads down to LA after San Fran...

People in the LA area could call Bartley's Harley and see when Brammo will be there.

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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 03:26:35 PM »
The email I got states this is NOT an "open demo" day.

Friday will be for staff rides and public viewing. So it's come "SEE" for yourself, not "RIDE" for yourself invitation.

It's a chance for those with deposits to get rides first, followed, with any available time, the folks who have been waiting to ride it before committing.

I plan to be there and will report back. Very exciting!

Later on, they will have a demo bike, I'm fairly certain.

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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 03:30:59 PM »
what about saturday?

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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 04:09:09 PM »
Saturday is the day for depositor + possibly other demo rides.  Friday is the day for staff rides.  They mention that if you are interested in dropping by on Friday to do so later in the afternoon, but I think that is more for "being able to see the bikes" rather than actually being able to ride at that time.  The bikes will likely be out of juice after some extended staff demo rides.

I wonder how they will keep them charged for an entire day of Saturday demos - perhaps a portable J1772 charging system in their van combined with a lengthy "orientation"?  Or perhaps they might have a proprietary DC direct charge system on the demos for high turn-around days?
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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 08:21:51 PM »
I stopped by today and got to see all 3 colors of the Empulse R and they are BEAUTIFUL: much better than the photos! Fit and finish excellent.

Got to throw a leg over one and the bars are perfect for me, just slightly leaning forward with no significant weight on my arthritic hands. The fold in the knee wasn't extreme. Everything felt neutral and balanced and I was ready to go!

Chatted with the reps for while who said dealer interest is keen.

I watched 3 folks take off on the bikes for a test ride, following a rep on a gasser, up to Twin Peaks and back to Scuderia.  Loved the whine of the motors revving in neutral... might even be noticeable enough to get the attention of pedestrians in a near-by cross walk. As they took off, sort of a muted, pleasant, jet-fighter effect. Way cool. A BMW 1150R pulled up and sounded so, you know, 20th century!

Today was indeed for shop personnel and I'm glad I'm getting a ride tomorrow, as the traffic should be way less than Friday night rush hour.

But I DID get to see 'em and they're definitely real and definitely here. Briefly.

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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 10:01:30 PM »
Congrats...yeah, at SECA when I was showing the Empulse everybody was hella impressed with the fit and finish and that it "is a real motorcycle"


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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2012, 02:24:33 PM »
I stopped by today and got to see all 3 colors of the Empulse R and they are BEAUTIFUL: much better than the photos! Fit and finish excellent.

Got to throw a leg over one and the bars are perfect for me, just slightly leaning forward with no significant weight on my arthritic hands. The fold in the knee wasn't extreme. Everything felt neutral and balanced and I was ready to go!

Chatted with the reps for while who said dealer interest is keen.

I watched 3 folks take off on the bikes for a test ride, following a rep on a gasser, up to Twin Peaks and back to Scuderia.  Loved the whine of the motors revving in neutral... might even be noticeable enough to get the attention of pedestrians in a near-by cross walk. As they took off, sort of a muted, pleasant, jet-fighter effect. Way cool. A BMW 1150R pulled up and sounded so, you know, 20th century!

Today was indeed for shop personnel and I'm glad I'm getting a ride tomorrow, as the traffic should be way less than Friday night rush hour.

But I DID get to see 'em and they're definitely real and definitely here. Briefly.

Thats awesome. Do you know where the bikes are heading after they ar done there? This is the road tour we have been hearing about right? Does anyone know when they are going to announce the new dealer locations, I think there is supposed to be one here in Colorado, I just dont know which one.

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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2012, 03:18:35 PM »
Do you know where the bikes are heading after they ar done there? This is the road tour we have been hearing about right? Does anyone know when they are going to announce the new dealer locations, I think there is supposed to be one here in Colorado, I just dont know which one.

I talked to staff members and they said the itinerary hasn't been made public because this is a DEALER tour, and, with only 3 bikes, they can't handle the general public's interest in test rides.

This board is probably our best source of information.

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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2012, 03:39:00 PM »
Yep...

On other option would be to follow James Richards on Facebook

He posts about where he is, and sometimes about where he is going...

All I know is South, then East


I assume LA (bartleys Harley) then San Diego?, then Phoenix??

I hope maybe Albuquerque someday, but I bet we are kinda low on the list

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edit...plus if James shows up in Albuquerque with 3 bikes he will probably leave with only 2.....
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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2012, 05:09:54 PM »
Scuderia is putting up images on Facebook



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Re: San Fran peeps....
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Re: San Fran peeps....
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Re: San Fran peeps....
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2012, 09:13:21 PM »
Shinysideup keeps the rubber side down!

The bikes were fresh off the chargers and looked stunning. Yes, they have the orange power wires coming out of the motor, but somehow they aren't nearly so noticeable on the real bikes as they are in the photos. The eye is just too busy taking in all the other 3-dimensional goodness, I guess.

Great, spirited test ride on sunny afternoon with slightly cool air in sparkling San Francisco.  Charging through the fast sweepers of upper Market St., then turn right onto the "back"(south) side entrance to Twin Peaks, past the tourist lookout point, and down the north side and back to the shop.

Flar and I met there and chatted with James and Jake from Brammo. Jake lead our group of three on the ride. I noticed that when we were sitting utterly silent behind him at traffic lights, his gasser sounded SO primitive. I mean, really, how gauche!

BTW, Flar and I were totally outridden by this young beautiful female employee of Scuderia West. In all fairness, she was a 1/3 the weight we were and rides the course every day to and from work on an Enertia. Plus she WAS riding the all black bike which we know is the fastest! Truthfully, she was just a more aggressive and confident rider than I. I figured that if she could throw this puppy into turns, then so could I, dammit! So I ALMOST kept up with her.

First impressions of the ride:

Seating position (6'1", 31" inseam) was very neutral with slight weight on the hands and a knee bend I could live with, though I suggested to Jake that they consider offering a peg-lowering kit for us old farts. I don't think I'd want to bring the bars back at all, since I won't be doing long-distance touring on this bike. The seat was comfortable enough, but of course our ride was short.

The shocks were excellent, soaking up San Francisco's infamous potholes, yet feeling well-planted in the twisties. They definitely felt set up on the "sport" side of things, as compared to the "cushy" ride of, say, a big Honda. The frame felt rock solid and I do believe they've got the geometry dialed in.

The bike does feel noticeably heavy as you lean it over a bit, but that disappears quickly once underway. Very sure feeling in the turns, though obviously heavier to flick that the TMax scooter that's been my ride for the last year. In all fairness. the TMax has a 500cc parallel twin flat on the ground and is one of the most flickable rides I've ever been on. I'd say the Empulse's handling slightly exceeded  my BMW R1200R with Wilbur shocks, which is high praise indeed.

WOW, the acceleration with strong torque on tap, absolutely anywhere, is a surprising thrill, especially after riding the 2012 Zero bike a few months ago. Love that whine to go with it. It really did exceed my expectations. In absolute 0-60 terms, maybe not terribly impressive (though fast enough for me), but the actual EXPERIENCE of that straight-line torque curve got my blood pumping during a couple of times of full-right-wrist-twist.

Although, as we all know, a relatively quiet bike, the motor and drive train produced more whine in a pleasing visceral sort of way than the almost totally quiet Zero, even at low speeds. Nothing objectionable at all, and kinda cool on take-off.

I felt some pronounced lash in the drive train. Would take me a few days' worth of riding to finesse my throttle control. But again, I'm coming fresh off an auto CV tranny, and not my R1200R shafty with the famous ker-CHUNK gear box.

Regen in first gear (good up to 60 mph) is VERY pronounced which is just perfect for my San Francisco hills. I barely needed to use the brakes in ordinary traffic. Matter of fact, lacking refined throttle control on this bike, I found 1st-gear regen a bit much on the flats, and found I preferred to ride all the time in 2nd gear in the urban areas. I also tried starting off in 3rd which the motor handled just fine thank you. Noticeably less acceleration had me going back to 2nd, however for the rest of the ride. I would use first pretty much only for hole-shot situations and for braking on our very steepest hills. Gears 4,5,6 I'd guess would be for the freeway. The tranny shifted smoothly and surely, though my foot couldn't feel the click as clearly as on some bikes I've ridden. The gear-shift indicator on the dash seemed to lag a moment with each shift.

Speaking of brakes, the Brembos up front does the job with one finger. I had to grab it fairly hard as a light changed on us at about 50 mph, and all the stopping had total progressive certainty and right now.

Don, the owner of Scuderia West, along with Jake and James interviewed us after the ride for a brief chat out on the sidewalk to get our impressions. All 3 riders had big grins. Many thanks to Brammo, Jake, James, and Don for a great experience.

Summary: I want this bike! Now!

PS: My wife came along (not on the Empulse ride) and even agreed with my choice of the white color scheme. How lucky can I get? How much confirmation do I need, to know that I need to buy this bike right now?!

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