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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2010, 09:57:35 AM »
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* possibly a slight decontent on parts - question for existing enertia owners, would you have been happy to pay say $500-1000 less for less premium parts? (forks, brakes)

Not a current owner...but I am just the opposite....I would pay extra for better parts.

Now the entry level Enertia could maybe get lesser parts and go for 7495 or less

But I would like a step up model to have great parts.

heck, for my latest scooter (MP3-500) I would have loved a version that was lightweight metal for shave off 50 pounds. I would have paid a good bit more for that. (list was 8995 for the 500 that weighs about 540 pounds...if they had a special edition model that weighed under 500 I would have gladly paid a list price of 9995)

I'm actually hoping the newest Enertia has a bit better front forks since that seems to be one of the few areas that anybody has any issue with...

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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2010, 11:04:39 AM »
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* possibly a slight decontent on parts - question for existing enertia owners, would you have been happy to pay say $500-1000 less for less premium parts? (forks, brakes)

Not a current owner...but I am just the opposite....I would pay extra for better parts.

Now the entry level Enertia could maybe get lesser parts and go for 7495 or less

But I would like a step up model to have great parts.

heck, for my latest scooter (MP3-500) I would have loved a version that was lightweight metal for shave off 50 pounds. I would have paid a good bit more for that. (list was 8995 for the 500 that weighs about 540 pounds...if they had a special edition model that weighed under 500 I would have gladly paid a list price of 9995)
When the Enertia was launched, supposedly they had the regular model @ $12k and the founders series @ $15k. The founders series were the first ones delivered, and had some carbon fiber elements (looks like brammobrian's bike has CF body cladding, not sure if the frame was carbon).

I'm not sure if they'd do that again. It'd be a limited production special for sure..
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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2010, 11:37:48 AM »
Well I'm not looking to pay that much more :)

Paying extra to cut off 50 pounds on a 550 pound bike is one thing...could do that with changing heavy metal frame to composite metal or aluminum. Expensive but worth it, to me.

But the Enertia doesn't need to lose any weight...too light and it has issues with freeway traffic.

But I would pay a bit more for nicer front forks and maybe an upgrade to the rear shock and for a bench seat...and a bit more for special paint is always doable.

So, if two versions.

4 kWh model is very much like current model. 7995
6 kWh model is the step up. Like current but better range. Maybe two tone paint. 8995
6 kWh model Special Edition. Better front fork, step up rear shock, special paint job. 9495...bench option for 200 more.

But these are not even guesses at this point, just thoughts of what I would offer if I was at Brammo...

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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2010, 01:44:03 PM »
From Craig, on twitter and Facebook:
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http://www.facebook.com/BrammoInc Some exciting news next week. Make sure to like this page to stay up to date! #Brammo

OUCH.  Better refill my Xanax prescription...
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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2010, 02:26:02 PM »
mmm, i don't see that post....but next week doesn't surprise me after saying yesterday that they aren't quite ready...

oh well, would like sooner but I will survive till next week

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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2010, 04:18:25 AM »
This is my position on the announcement of the Enertia Plus.

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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2010, 01:46:39 PM »
BrammoCraig Closer every day. Next week. For Sure! Brammo news coming . Very excited about the news and fun ahead!


mmmm, so monday would be nice...but I bet it is like thursday...Friday would be cruel :)

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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2010, 02:38:07 PM »
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What do the numbers 2, 4 and 2500 have to do with anything anyway?

anybody???


2--two models--Enertia (current model) and Enertia Pro
4--New Enertia has a 4 kWh battery--with new Battery management it gives twice the range of the old Enertia
2500--cost for old Enertia model owners if they want to swap battery and Battery Management from new Enertia into there bike. Thus making their range close to 80 miles instead of 40.

of course all 3 of those guesses are way wrong.

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or

2 models
4 variations--1 Enertia, 3 for the Empulse (6,8,10)
2500 sold or 2500 pre orders
 
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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2010, 06:13:26 PM »
2,4,2500

How many dealerships does Harley Davidson have worldwide??


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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2010, 07:02:28 PM »
Here's what I said on twitter:
2 = 2 seater
4 = 4 Brammo Babes
2500 = the number of calories each of them consume per week.

Other than that, I have no idea.
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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #40 on: October 16, 2010, 03:08:23 AM »
Here's what I said on twitter:
2 = 2 seater
4 = 4 Brammo Babes
2500 = the number of calories each of them consume per week.

That was good!

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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #41 on: October 16, 2010, 06:48:51 PM »
2,4,2500 options.

2...

2 models (enertia and enertia plus---oh. E2 --but a little raised 2 like e squared)
2--- as in twice the range..from 40 to 80 miles
2 companies...brammo merges with a company with worldwide distribution..like Harley.

4...

4 kWh battery pack
4 times the density of current pack, but smaller and lighter.
4 miles per hour faster (seems too low though, I expect a 10 or more mph increase).

2500...

Price of battery upgrade seems to be the only choice...other than
Number of worldwide dealerships when brammo joins x company...x being Harley or somebody eles with many worldwide dealerships, but needs to expand ( Harley is slipping a bit in sales...needs something more cutting edge to go with the current image)

Others??

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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #42 on: October 17, 2010, 09:27:23 AM »
2,4,2500 options.

2...

2 models (enertia and enertia plus---oh. E2 --but a little raised 2 like e squared)
2--- as in twice the range..from 40 to 80 miles
2 companies...brammo merges with a company with worldwide distribution..like Harley.

4...

4 kWh battery pack
4 times the density of current pack, but smaller and lighter.
4 miles per hour faster (seems too low though, I expect a 10 or more mph increase).

2500...

Price of battery upgrade seems to be the only choice...other than
Number of worldwide dealerships when brammo joins x company...x being Harley or somebody eles with many worldwide dealerships, but needs to expand ( Harley is slipping a bit in sales...needs something more cutting edge to go with the current image)

Others??

Gavin

Price of the battery upgrade is not a bad idea. Especially if the battery is a 4kwh battery and you return your existing 3.1 kwh battery.

Another possibility is number of Brammo Enertia sales to date. Possibly Enertia sales + Empulse pre-orders.
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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #43 on: October 17, 2010, 09:40:05 AM »
I thought of that too, but I thought there are 800 or so Enertias on the road and I know there are still less than 1000 Empulse pre orders, though hopefully that changes soon.

Does anybody know how many Enertias have been sold?

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Re: Enertia 2.0 speculation...timing...
« Reply #44 on: October 18, 2010, 11:51:40 AM »
Two new tweets:

# @dsantolo well I dont want to be too silly, sday narrows it a bit... okay how about starts with a t and ends with sday?

So Tuesday or Thursday

I vote Tuesday :)

Sadly my vote doesn't count for much

and

#    Okay - big big big week. Somethings for public consumption, somethings not but they add up to big big for Brammo     30 minutes ago  via TweetDeck


Public comsumption guess---Enertia Plus details

Somethings not---dealership partnership with....Harley??

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