Brammo Empulse RR to use dual motors?

[Gavin]

The question is:

New motor vs motors?

And just for the RR or also for the production Empulse?

Thanks...I was one of those people checking out your site

What would be cool is Brammo putting two motors (or a bigger single motor) in the Empulse and then putting either one of those motors in the Enertia (40 HP on the Enertia sounds good to me) or putting the old Empulse motor on the Enertia (54 HP would be insane on the Enertia...but who doesn't like insane? )...

I could get to work in like 4 minutes

Gavin

[Brammofan]

Hi Richard - I should explain that Richard a/k/a ttxgpfan, has licensed the ___fan trademark from me and has agreed to pay the full licensing fee in cash. 

Now that we have that disclaimer out of the way, let me say this about Italians claiming that Brammo is going with dual motors:

E 'merda completa.

Atsa right.

[Gavin]

ps....welcome to the site ttxgpfan

Gavin

[Gavin]

Ok...so put a single 86ish HP motor on the production Empulse...two 86HP motors on the RR to kick racing butt...and put the 54 HP motor from the pre-production Empulse on the Enertia Plus...There my job here is done...

Gavin

[Sander]

Hello all,

I just sold my BMW R80R, and am looking for a new one. I'm mostly interested in the Zero S, as I don't believe in chains (don't like that kind of maintenance, and the sound) and gearboxes (shifting sucks, and gearboxes add complexity, please use that space for extra battery capacity), although the Empulse is the better looking bike, and better specs too.

The Zero S will be available in February for early buyers, and April for people like me who don't like to pay for something upfront. Zero has a very responsive representative in The Netherlands, and several dealers.

At this moment the 2012 models are in The Netherlands, to be shipped back to the US next week. Maybe I'll try to arrange a testdrive on the Zero S this friday. If that happens, I'll of course let you guys (girls?) know.

I'm looking at a single trip of 70km, of which a bit more than 60km is highway speed (130kmh). I'm kinda affraid the 2012 Zero S can't do that.

Well while Brian is going to China, some (all?) of the others are heading to Holland....

Hello Gavin,

Where did you get that info from? And what does it mean?

Sander

[Gavin]

Not sure what it means...though The Netherlands is a prime market for EVs...and Brammo knows that.

Was on Brammo's Facebook page....

Brammo
Sun rises as we leave Milan for Amsterdam


I assume for Brammo related stuff...maybe just a stop over (though I don't think Milan to Amsterdam is the normal flight route)...maybe just to visit Amsterdam...

I did tell Brammo to make an Oranje model...it would sell well in The Netherlands...



Gavin

[Brammofan]

It's possible that the trip to Amsterdam was in order to catch a connecting flight to the U.S.   

[Sander]

Not sure what it means...though The Netherlands is a prime market for EVs...and Brammo knows that.

Was on Brammo's Facebook page....

Brammo
Sun rises as we leave Milan for Amsterdam

I assume for Brammo related stuff...maybe just a stop over (though I don't think Milan to Amsterdam is the normal flight route)...maybe just to visit Amsterdam...

Hm, the Zero's do go via Amsterdam. I assume by truck from Italy, and by plane from Amsterdam to the US, though this is all (my) guesswork.

I did tell Brammo to make an Oranje model...it would sell well in The Netherlands...

Hehe, with the KNVB logo  I'm not into soccer at all, though (and we lost from 'Ze Germans' yesterday   )

[protomech]

Hello all,

I just sold my BMW R80R, and am looking for a new one. I'm mostly interested in the Zero S, as I don't believe in chains (don't like that kind of maintenance, and the sound) and gearboxes (shifting sucks, and gearboxes add complexity, please use that space for extra battery capacity), although the Empulse is the better looking bike, and better specs too.

The Zero S will be available in February for early buyers, and April for people like me who don't like to pay for something upfront. Zero has a very responsive representative in The Netherlands, and several dealers.

At this moment the 2012 models are in The Netherlands, to be shipped back to the US next week. Maybe I'll try to arrange a testdrive on the Zero S this friday. If that happens, I'll of course let you guys (girls?) know.

Hi Sander, welcome to the forum. Good luck on getting a test ride on a 2012 S before February! It'd be totally sweet if you could sneak a ride on the new bikes before they're crated up though

I'm looking at a single trip of 70km, of which a bit more than 60km is highway speed (130kmh). I'm kinda affraid the 2012 Zero S can't do that.

That would be a good question to put to your Zero rep. I guess Zero S ZF9 has a range of < 60 km at 130 km/h, Empulse 10.0 kwh has a range of < 80 km. Lots more range at a lower speed, of course.

[Sander]

Hi Sander, welcome to the forum. Good luck on getting a test ride on a 2012 S before February! It'd be totally sweet if you could sneak a ride on the new bikes before they're crated up though

Unfortunately the 2012 models don't have a licence plate, hence I'm not allowed to test ride one.

I'm looking at a single trip of 70km, of which a bit more than 60km is highway speed (130kmh). I'm kinda affraid the 2012 Zero S can't do that.

That would be a good question to put to your Zero rep. I guess Zero S ZF9 has a range of < 60 km at 130 km/h, Empulse 10.0 kwh has a range of < 80 km. Lots more range at a lower speed, of course.

Well, he (Zero rep.) says 120/130km with a sportive riding style, but on Zero's site they state 101km at 112kmh. I guess one really just need to try, but it will be a close call anyhow. Don't want to have to hold back on the throttle if one spends 15k euro on a bike.

[ttxgpfan]

Hey guys,
Thank you for the warm greeting!

@Gavin, than you for finding my site

@Brammofan  Umm, yeah, about that cash.  Since Azhar gave me the name he said for you to put it on his tab.  But he may not actually remember the conversation, so . . . good luck with that.

Back to the motor thing.  The new RR has a 160ish hp motor just waiting to be put in (from Brain's lips at Miller).  So I am sure they are sticking with that motor for next season.  I suspect the race bike will not have a transmission, just the street bike, but that is pure speculation.  I wouldn't mind 82hp of dual motor transmission goodness in a streetbike.  Whatever the street bike will be, @Motoelettriche believes they will run that at the Isle of Man, and not the RR.  I think it's a good PR and R&D move.  The Isle of Man is the ultimate proving grounds.  I am going to very much generalize, but notice how Honda's CBR1000RR rules the Isle, but the bike struggles on the track?  How the BMW S10000RR Rules at the track but sucks on the TT course?  It is my opinion that what makes for a great bike on the track does not make for a great bike on the street.  I think it would be the first production (assuming it gets produced) electric street bike to run the TT.  A successful week there and it would be hard to deny the Empulse the title of the world's best production electric street bike. 

It's silly, but I am excited for the TT already.