Enertia+ in August?!

[kingcharles]

What's the battery capacity and range @ speed on the Vectrix?

It used to be 30ah/3.7kwh but last month I measured 24ah/3kwh so I am already at 80% capacity 
My battery still makes the one way commute of 31 km, but only just... this is with 45% at 100km/h 45% at 80km/h and the rest at 50km/h
Almost 30.000 kilometers on the odo.
So doing 100 kilometers on one day means 3 charges during the trip, maybe if I go slow I can manage with two charges but my right hand doesn't work that way.

[kingcharles]

Hi Frank, it was a pleasure to meet you today at the test ride. If you wonder how you look on the Brammo Enertia check out this link

[FrankH]

Same here, kingcharles. You didn't look too bad yourself.

[kingcharles]

A video of the Vectrix/Brammo drag race can be found

[Brammofan]

Looked like you guys were neck and neck.  Who won?

[kingcharles]

The Vectrix, but only by a very small margin.

[protomech]

VX1 and Enertia Plus are an interesting comparison, 5 years apart. Comparing a maxiscooter with a small motorcycle is a little bit silly, but .. it's what we've got.

2007 VX1, $11000 (about $12300 in 2012 USD)
125V 30Ah NiMH battery, 3.7 kWh
20 kW peak AC motor w/ regen, reverse
462 lbs + 476 lbs cargo = 938 lbs gross
max speed 62 mph
acceleration 6.8s 0-50 mph (claimed, not sure if I believe it)
range 68 miles @ 25 mph (claimed), users report 26 mile at 40-50 mph
1.5 kW charger = 10 miles charged/hour @ 40-50 mph


2012 Enertia Plus, $11000
88V 70Ah Li-ion battery, 6.2 kWh
13 kW peak AC motor w/ regen
330 lbs + 270 lbs cargo = 600 lbs gross
max speed 60+ mph
range 80 miles @ EPA UDDS, likely 50-60 miles @ 40-50 mph
~1 kW charger = 8-10 miles charged/hour @ 40-50 mph

Motor and charger performance @ the $11k price point have not moved much, at least in these two applications. Range has basically doubled, though some of this comes as the E+ is much lighter.

Today Vectrix is basically selling the same bike but with a LiFePO4 battery pack. 425 lb / 30 Ah / 3.7 kWh Li is $12k, 460 lb / 42 Ah / 5.4 kWh Li+ is $14k.