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Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« on: October 19, 2023, 09:55:06 AM »
Looking forward to discuss your ideas on changing batteries to LI-Ion (changeable)
Would like to share informations and parts.

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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2023, 03:15:53 AM »
Anyone managed to reset the BMS of the u1-12xp after -I guess - temp fault?
Cycled the cells now many times (like explained in manual) but still red blinking LED 😧
Would be grateful for help or working BMS
« Last Edit: November 08, 2023, 01:29:15 PM by gyvermc »

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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2023, 07:17:24 AM »
open battery by removing cover, disconnect thick black (minus)wire, wait 1 minute and re-connect black wire.
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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2023, 10:23:50 AM »
Thank you. Unfortunately it did not help.
To clarify, technically you mean unplugging the yellow and black wire (to main fuse) from the cells minus?
The LED then went in dimm red light for the waiting time.
After re-connecting, the LED was flashing red/green for some seconds, and then back to red flashing.
(Was testing 1x u1-12xp and 2x u27-12xp)
« Last Edit: October 30, 2023, 10:26:29 AM by gyvermc »

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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2023, 07:05:06 AM »
did you run a check with the Valence diagnostic software?
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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2023, 05:37:11 PM »
Yes

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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2023, 05:38:18 PM »
No battery found

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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2023, 01:53:53 AM »
you better first get your diagnostic software  working, maybe there is def something wrong with your batteries.
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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2023, 09:59:59 AM »
Im able to communicate with 5 other BMS, so seems to work ;-)

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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2023, 05:08:07 AM »
Hi, below you find a copy of a reply on a post i posted earlier on this forum;

 I had to repair a U1-12XP for my Enertia that had a prior botched repair where one bank of batteries was completely dead.  The balance board had the blinking red, so I took it out and connected it to 4 new LifePO4 18650 cells to test and when I checked the diagnostics, 2 of the cells that had 3.3V came up as 0V in the diagnostic.  So I had a busted balance board (it sounds like you are saying you do too).  To replace the board, I ordered a U27-12XP board to replace it from:

https://www.yousun.org/product/valence-u27-12xp-lifepo4-battery-balance-board

This is the same board as the U1-12XP, but it is the modern one from the green batteries and doesn't fit the battery box well (I mounted mine externally in a fly tackle box).  I think the batteries you got are so small you should have the room needed to mount internally.  Once I programmed the right battery number from the diagnostic program, it worked like a charm, no different from the original balance board.

Anyway, not sure if this helps any, but out of curiosity, what did you use for your bus bars/wires?
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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2023, 01:28:30 PM »
IMO your answer is very helpful.
I was hoping, the u27-12v BMS would be the same and bought one single and another comlete battery (green LED).
Unfortunately both weren`t working with the valence software (one was dead and the other one wouldnt change the module number, although I got a confirmation message).
So I`m going to buy one from your recommendation and follow your advice.
Thank you very much!

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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2023, 01:58:40 AM »
Hi, below you find a copy of a message i posted earlier on this forum;

https://jag35.com/products/24v-20-ah-valence-lifepo4-battery-u1-24rt

Seller:  note that these are reclaimed packs, so the actual cell voltage you receive may be lower than the label shows. These items are sold for DIY and Second Life purposes. Listings that are specifically described as  untested  or sold as-is  and cannot be returned, exchanged or refunded. We make no guarantees that all cells will be usable. Even when sold as new, NOS, or like-new, they may be in less than perfect condition. Buyer is responsible for proper cell recycling/disposal.
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Re: Like to keep my Enertia alive 😁
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2023, 10:54:10 AM »
Thank you. Allready contacted this seller. No items in stock actually.

I have another bms which shows wrong voltage (1,5V instead of 3,3V) on all cells.
Anybody has an idea, which part could be changed to repair this BMS?
Maybe by using chips / resistors / diodes of the broken one which does not communicate with the PC?